kclaura2003
I'm going to clarify facts here. Don't take it personally, (I wouldn't bother if I didn't sense a good heart in your post) however, your perception reveals a need to become educated on the matter. Try reading RAINN.org victim stories. None of us knows everything and there is a lot of mythology and propaganda around the subject of rape. Rapists themselves, use your language to excuse themselves. So, before you hurt someone with your ignorance on the topic, put some time into learning.
It is really off-putting the way Brad Pitt's Sargent says: "Either you take her into the bedroom or I will." Like WTF?! It made me hate his character, tbh. Who did this guy think he was?! Makes me glad he was sniped.
It's not "off-putting," it's a crime. That's a direct threat, it's terrifying, it's coercion and it's traumatizing. Just those words. Add to that
I think Emma was scared at first but then I think she could tell Norman had a soft heart and was the nice one in his squad so that probably made her feel safe enough to consent to him.
1 - Consent is not possible during a home invasion nor a military occupation. That is not one of the options available.
2 - Emma didn't stop being scared. If you go back and listen to her words, she is being compliant, resigned, and is acting out of a survival instinct. She literally tells Norman she wants to do it because she wants to live. And, she's certainly worried about the other woman there, too, and what her causing any fuss at all might cost them. She's terrified.
It's obvious you have no experience with an occupying military force. When they invade your home, armed and threatening, you make nice to survive. What doesn't happen is that suddenly, you think of them as "nice." That's the soldier/rapist's view.
If any of the other guys (including Brad Pitt) had tried anything I'd think she would have been terrified, tried to resist and then it would have been rape.
They more than "tried anything" - they invaded their home, ordered them around, kept their weapons within reach, threatened to gang-rape them, ignored their pleas that they leave their home and then Norman raped her.
As for resistance - there was no consent. I have to wonder what kind of sex lives some posters on this thread have that they don't know that when a woman wants someone sexually, she's all over them and panting and maybe begging. There's no mistaking desire.
That's how I saw the scene, anyway.
It's a very long thread... I started it two years ago, I think... so maybe you didn't read it. I'll re-write this part because I think it helps those whom haven't been in a war zone and threatened like this to have some semblance of empathy for the victims.
Imagine you are at home with your family. Armed men come in and threaten you. They want something from you. So, you sit compliantly at your table with your family. You want to fight and to kick them out but they are armed and they outnumber you and they already let you know they are your enemy. You tried to get them to go, but they won't.
They want to play a game with you. You won't like it but it makes them happy. Your goal is to survive and to ensure that your family survives, too. One of them takes a soup bowl, goes to the bathroom and returns with it full of hot feces and puts it in front of you. You are told to eat it.
They tell you that this gives them pleasure and that after you do it, they will let you and your family live and they will leave. They make a point of giving you the best silver spoon to use and say they want you to enjoy it. You eat the feces - in whatever way pleases them.
Now, was that consent? No, it's compliance and you do it because you don't want to die and because you are protecting your family. People get confused because they don't understand that rape is not about sex... it's about violation, power and control and hatred.
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