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The key to a happy marriage: Accept husband's love child w/mistress?


Huh?

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Rose's anger was with Troy, not with the innocent and motherless newborn. She showed her heart by accepting the baby even though it wasn't biologically her own. Rose was done with her marriage though. One of my favourite quotes from the film:

Okay, Troy...you're right. I'll take care of your baby for you...cause...like you say...she's innocent...and you can't visit the sins of the father upon the child. A motherless child has got a hard time. From right now...this child got a mother. But you a womanless man.


BAM!!!!
Troy got sent out to the curb.

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Haha! Troy was served, yet still too clueless to understand.

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Rose was done with her marriage though.

If she were done with her marriage, she would have left. She didn't.

Rose's willingness to take whatever crap Troy dished out, even that ultimate outrage and betrayal, was disturbing. It also alienated me from her character and the story.

The most offense aspect of the revelation scene was Troy's appalling self-absorption and insensitivity. All he did was talk about his needs, and how wonderful his mistress made him feel, without a hint of contrition for the agony he wrought on his wife. Any spouse willing to stay with such a lout is not worth pitying.

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If she were done with her marriage, she would have left. She didn't.



Maybe you need to stop evaluating the story through your 2017 eyes and think in terms what life was like back then for women. If she had physically moved out, where would she go? It's not like she had a college degree and was rolling in the dough to just buy a new house for herself. Financial restraints may have caused her to stay in the home but EMOTIONALLY, she was no longer trusting Troy. The marital relationship was DONE. One doesn't have move out of a home for a marriage to die.

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She was involved in the church and may have had family. She did more than he did. He worked at a job that didn't require a college education. She could have been a seamstress, cook, or whatever. His house was bought with his brother's money. The child was innocent but could have been adopted. The wife shouldn't have been a doormat no matter what the ear. They especially should show better in a 2016 film knowing that it could be impressionable. They now make films set in the 1960s without showing hoards of smokers.

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"Okay, Troy...you're right. I'll take care of your baby for you...cause...like you say...she's innocent...and you can't visit the sins of the father upon the child. A motherless child has got a hard time. From right now...this child got a mother. But you a womanless man."

That was my favorite part too. The best was Davis's delivery. You're thinking, "Man, how understanding can this woman be and how much shit can she take?!?". Then, she throws out that very last line as she's walking away which really changes the tone of what she had just said.

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The key to a happy marriage: Accept husband's love child w/mistress?
Nowhere in the film was that said to lead to a happy marriage...You aren't thinking brightly at all about this.


Rodents of Unusual Size?...I don't think they exist.

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Why didn't you put SPOILER ALERT? Damn

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Uh ninja, SPOILER ALERT????? Get with the program dude!








Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar and doesn't.

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What was she supposed to do? Troy owned the house and was the breadwinner. She seemingly stayed home and was a homemaker or was out of work. She probably could have found a job doing laundry or washing dishes, but that would have taken some time for a black women and where would she have lived? Divorce was a lot different back in those days. Infidelity on the husband's part was not usually grounds for a divorce, and don't forget when I say this, that years ago most states didn't even grant a divorce without fault. Some states these days don't even allow divorce with fault or two party consent. Without adultery, she would have to prove some kind of abuse, abandonment, or imprisonment.

And even if she could be granted a divorce, most poor families are afraid of it because of how expensive it is (and this is a problem these days still).

So her response made sense in the context. They were still a family, and had a business arrangement. And after a while she would even grow to care for him and see him as family again, but the romantic part of the relationship was over. Yes, if this was a modern middle class or higher relationship, she would have divorced him and left him, but consider the times and the patriarchy.

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Excellent summation/explanation

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Happy Marriage lol

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yes they were very happy all sunshine and rainbow with pot of gold as icing on the cake. Most successful marriage ever to be put on screen

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She was stuck in an unhappy relationship, and had to make a difficult choice. She could leave, pick up and get "the walking blues" but where would she go? How would she make a living? The transition from homemaker to worker in the 50s for a middle aged black woman would have been EXTREMELY adverse, stressful and encumbersome. She chose to swallow her pride, accept her external circumstances and focus on the internal happiness she could find from her relationship with religion. Very multi-dimensional decision she had to make, and not easy.

Que Sera Sera

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I agree with you. In real life, we would call Rose a battered wife (emotional abuse) and condemn her for putting up with a tyrant husband like that. But in the movies/plays...

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I agree with you. In real life, we would call Rose a battered wife (emotional abuse) and condemn her for putting up with a tyrant husband like that. But in the movies/plays...


I don't necessarily agree that we would condemn a woman for tolerating abuse (that's victim blaming and and generally not in fashion anymore), but I'm surprised there's not more focus on how much of an abuser Troy was. There's no discussion about it all pretty much anywhere. I have to wonder if it was different if the movie had all white characters, because then it would be easier to talk about difficult subjects like that.

It could be that now people are more careful about focusing on that aspect of Troy because people don't want to be seen as racially insensitive etc. I could be wrong though, maybe people just don't care about abuse as much as I thought. And I'm talking about both physical (toward the son, perhaps even against the wife at times) and emotional abuse.

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