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Is there political correctness in Britain? Just wondering...


why it's necessary to incorporate the two girls being gay?

I'm not anti-gay. Well, actually I'm not anything. Gayness doesn't register on my radar as something that concerns me. But, it is constantly jammed down people's throats on a day to day basis, especially with all the sh^t about Trump.

I just like the show's focus on women getting the best help they can through Nonnatus House. The compassion of the nuns and midwifes, to me, me is the focus, as well as the wonderful history we get from the show about the evolution of modernized health care.

IDK. The whole thing just seems out of place.




"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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The writers are showing just how difficult it indeed was for gay couples at that time and how deep in the closet they had to stay. For fear of being ostracized, losing their jobs, families, etc.

The relationship is being portrayed very well, no propoganda, it's just a love story.


And with the majority of the cast being women midwives and nurses, well of course it's going to be 2 women.





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I agree with you, gonbaoji, it's beautifully done with no political correctness and no propaganda. There is nothing superfluous about it, it's a lovely subplot. I found it to be an honest peek into the past, two young women who found each other and shared a life together.

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It wasn't necessary to incorporate two gay women. I'm like you, if someone is gay, fine with me. This show over the years has turned into a social nanny that likes to pontificate and lecture on what they think our thoughts should be, and they seem to search for social issues to make their points, whether we need it or not.

So, no, it wasn't necessary, but it was part of the show's agenda.

As far as political correctness in Britain, I believe the UK and Europe in particular is the birthplace of political correctness.

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Agree.

"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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Hey, just turn the channel and watch something else then if you have a problem with the show.

Leave it for us who enjoy it.

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How did you interpret that I do not like the show? You need to reread my OP and stop being dumb.

"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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I DO know what an immature name caller needs...but I refuse to stoop to your level.

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What has "necessary" got to do with it? If it comes down to it the whole show is "unnecessary". There have always been gay people and until very recently their lives were incredibly difficult and secretive. It's not "necessary" to not portray them either.

As for political correctness, to my mind it's just being aware of people different from ourselves and being polite. Obviously your definition differs.

As for the OP, I call BS; no one who really doesn't care about homosexuality and claims that it doesn't register uses phrases liked "shoved down our throats".



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I am stunned by your comment that showing a lesbian couple is unnecessary in the context of the show. I so disagree with your point. In 1961 lives were ruined if people found out you were gay. You could be imprisoned. The show is trying to convey how difficult life was for gay people then. As it shows how difficult life was for women who found themselves pregnant and unmarried. The show is about life, birth, death, hardship, joy, and sometimes misery. I have been deeply touched by this show and I love the fact that they bring in historical aspects that touch on social norms of the day. I remember all of it so well.

In 1971 I was lucky to find a doctor to give me a prescription for the pill when I was a university student. The freedom to choose when and if to become pregnant finally put women on an equal footing sexually which scared the hell out of some men at the time.

The show is especially valuable for young people to see how difficult life was for women on so many levels. In America in the 1960s a woman needed her husband's permission to open a checking account, to get a drivers license and to purchase car insurance. Your husband had to cosign and if you were unmarried or divorced maybe your boss would vouch for you if you were lucky. This all sounds so incredibly insane in 2017. I know such women first hand and I was shocked when they told me.

"Midwife" is a valuable social lesson especially for young people who don't understand the struggle of what came before them and how far we have come in society for accepting women as equals to men. "Mad Men" shows some of these same themes.

Your gay objection comment proves that all of society isn't quite there when it comes to accepting gay people. Gay people are no different from straight people. It is not a choice. I would ask you when did you decide you liked boys? I am sure you didn't decide. You just liked boys. It is that way for gay people. It is not a choice it just is. By the way, I am not gay if you are wondering. My husband and I have been married for 40 years and I am thrilled that gay people have the same choice and rights to get married too.

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Where exactly did you go to university, where it was that difficult for you to get the pill in 1971?
And where in America did a woman need her boss to vouch for her to get an insurance in the 1960s?
You say you were shocked to hear that, but I don't know if I believe in it at all.
Sure, there were injustices out there in the past.
But sometimes, it seems to me that people exaggerate how bad it was.


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It wasn't necessary; it wasn't unnecessary.

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They don’t call it “political correctness” because it’s more “cultural politeness” in Britain, and in this show about a church-sponsored health center, “Christian compassion”.

I don’t think a storyline about two lesbian characters is falling for any modern agenda. This story revolves around the small community of Poplar which is part of the huge city of London. It is entirely in line with demographics that a certain segment of this population would have been gay. Why not tell their story amongst all the other stories about Poplar residents? That is what is great about this show. It weaves together the stories of people living in one community that is undergoing the same radical social changes happening in Britain, America and across many free countries during this era.

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The compassion of the nuns and midwives you speak of is derived by the characters themselves. Each character has her own personal story cleverly written throughout each season. And that is what makes them so likable to the audience and compassionate to the other characters.

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Not political correctness, the show just tries to be real.

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I'm sure there were lesbians back then who were midwives. Patsy and Delia is my favorite couple along with Chummy and Peter. I'm glad they were in the show.

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