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Finally saw this movie

posted 6 years ago by DarthRoger (867)
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It was gorgeous to look at but a bit long and didn't have a very satisfying conclusion. The antagonist's motivations were not entirely explained. Niander Wallace never indicates how he hopes to replicate the process of Replicant fertilization and birth, nor why this is such a big deal. Couldn't he simply build Replicants with greatly extended or unlimited life spans? You get the impression that he wishes to make himself a new age God and have Replicants supplant humanity as the dominant species. Some of the cruel actions exhibited by Wallace and his sadistic assistant Luv were perplexing, as they didn't make rational sense. Ryan Gosling did a fine job as K, the future Blade Runner but his connection through the wooden horse memory was never expanded on. Was it the child's memory and if so, WHY was it put in his mind? Was it intentional or an accident, as the real child of Rachel was a designer of memories for Wallace's corporation that builds Replicants?

So much left for the viewer to wonder.

In summation, not a bad movie but not a "must see" one either. The first BR is far superior.

[–] TinaKimo (872) 6 years ago

Agreed. I'm very happy I didn't pay to see @ theater.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

It's more clear and satisfying on a second viewing.

Wallace wants to be able to make replicants without cloning or growing them. Reproduction would make them fully automated.

Luv was made to do her job without concern for others. It seems Wallace made her like that because he considers life to be a plaything and a source of profit, not something with true value outside his own drive and desires.

The memory was not his. She prepared the memory so it could be implanted, as it would cause a replicant to seek out the mystery, something she could not do since she was in the bubble.

The memory had to be put into the mind of some replicant, at some point, and K is the one it landed in. That's my view of the memory issue.

[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

I see your points all around but here's the most confounding issue.

During the scene where Dr. Ana Stelline looks at K's memory, to determine if it's a real memory or implanted, why did she not reveal to him that the memory was hers? It seems cruel to me that he went on this long journey, threw away the life he had, lost his love interests (holographic Joi was real to him), only to be deceived in hoping that he had a real past.

That's a logic issue I can't reconcile. She could have saved him a lot of personal pain. It actually kind of angers me the more i think about it.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

Probably because K is a cop and what she did was illegal. If she tells him, he might just follow his programming and have her arrested.

But you'd think she would have more compassion for replicants, since her mom was one... though she did seem very conflicted about her decisions, and using K like that. Now I kinda want to see it for a third time.

[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

Wait a minute, I don't see how what she did was illegal when it's what she's contracted to do for the Wallace Corporation, creating memories. I think you've got that wrong. Her silence is inexplicable in that moment.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

As she or someone in the movie mentioned, implanting real human memories into a replicant is illegal. I think she said it, pretty sure.

Her job was to create custom memories, controlled ones.

[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

Okay, I guess I missed that remark in the shuffle.

[–] McQualude (4231) 6 years ago

I agree about Wallace and Luv, their motivations were tenuous at best. They seemed evil for evil's sake.

My take on the wood horse memory... K was a red herring for anyone who went looking for Ana. His DNA was a match to hers, he was given her memory, and apparently was given the horse to reinforce it. But it's an unlikely coincidence that was also the replicant that found her, so I'm not sure. Might need to watch it again.

[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

Okay, I was thinking of giving it another viewing. Maybe I'll notice more with a second look.