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people who complain about this are really missing the point (possible spoilers)


It's been made very clear throughout the entire movie that the Danish couple are the perfect victims and are chosen wisely by the Dutch people. the Dutch people even tested the waters many times by leaving increasingly alarming red flags and at one point near the end Bjork asks them "why are you doing this?" to which the Dutch husband responds by saying "because you let me". this line really just wraps up the whole point. This story is not terrifying because there are people like the Dutch couple, it's terrifying because there are real-life people like the Danish couple. I honestly think this is one of the most effective horror movies I have ever seen. I can't remember the last time a horror movie left me so cold and wanting to hug someone. it's also one of those movies I will never rewatch or recommend to anyone. Truly disturbing stuff.

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I mean, isn't it possible people complain and understand the movie? You liked it, doesn't mean everyone else did too.

"Well, you didn't understand it", is just never a good defense for a movie.

As you said, the message is pretty much hammered into your head throughout, and the antagonist literally says it as the reason he did it.

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I mean, isn't it possible people complain and understand the movie?

- of course, it's possible

You liked it, doesn't mean everyone else did too.

- never said otherwise

"Well, you didn't understand it", is just never a good defense for a movie.

- it kinda is. after all, there is an open door for discussion on this website. if movie discussions just boil down to I like it or dislike it, is it really a "discussion"?

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I mean, should movies be made only for the people that understand it or made to be understood? I think movies are an art; and art is subjective and open to different interpretations. In that sense, everyone's understanding will be a little different. I suppose it's also by what metric we decide to qualify a movie as good? If it's to evoke any extreme emotion or reaction, then I suppose I'd call this movie good; similarly, movies like Terrifier 2 and Martyrs also left me with similar feelings of dread.

Imagine a movie about Organic Chemistry that is enjoyed by students or practitioners of the subject, but people not invested in that field (or more broadly, whatever specific population/culture/country you might target a movie towards) might not enjoy it as much because they didn't understand everything going on. So is the onus of understanding the events portrayed in the movie, on the movie, or the viewer?

If a seemingly confusing movie that 5% of it's viewers purportedly "understand", are the other 95% wrong in their confusion? Taken in a less extreme ratio, if 60% of an audience likes a movie because they "understood" it, is the remaining 40% wrong in disliking a movie because they didn't interpret it "correctly"?

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I like both the original OP's comments and yours and not to speak for the OP, but I agree with the criticism when it comes to the missing of a main theme of a movie when it is central to the entire movie, like many viewers have done with this movie.

It is made clear what the protagonists in this movie were seeking and doing and there are many examples of this in real life - look at the Stockholm Syndrome and recall the murderous Canadian couple from the 70s or 80s.

It is like the movie Whiplash and how so many viewers either missed out or ignored the dynamic relationship and what it meant between the main characters.

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Ok, it seems that you're mostly criticizing my title and to some extent, I do agree that not everyone who disliked the movie, did not understand it, But also on the other hand everyone who didn't understand it will obviously dislike it. All I want to say is that it's possible to watch a movie and miss some crucial points and then enter a discussion with someone who brings up some points that "click" in your brain and you start viewing that movie a bit differently, in fact, this is why I use this forum anyways. I am not here to tell people what to like and what to dislike and I don't expect haters to suddenly fall in love with the movie after reading this. Just wanted to put my two cents and everyone can then decide for themselves. Personally, I didn't even say that I liked it, I just said it was effective horror and I also said that I will never rewatch it. sometimes a simple "like" or "dislike" is not enough to express how I feel about a movie.

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- it kinda is. after all, there is an open door for discussion on this website. if movie discussions just boil down to I like it or dislike it, is it really a "discussion"?


lol one of my biggest pet peeves is clicking on a thread on this site, and the only thing OP wrote was "I liked it!" or "didn't like it!"

It's like, that's great. Using a discussion forum like a facebook status lol

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the movie is about permissive culture and how we can't judge anyone it seems no matter how bad they are. i understood what the movie was about.

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I get you, but I feel I'm still missing the point. I'm still not sure why they are doing this, how do they earn money if they have no jobs, and why is there a history painting on the end credits (probably a meaning)?

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