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There was a group orgy in the book. And they were 11!

posted 7 years ago by [deleted]
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What do you guys think of this? I haven't read the part, but apparently its a few pages long and it more or less goes like this.... after defeating the clown, they are all disheartened that Beverly allows them all to do her. Sort of like a team building opportunity. King goes as far as saying that only a few of them could get her to climax.

Some have called out King as nothing but a sick pevert for even writing such a thing.

Others have said that it was extremely sexist because Beverly is using sex as a tool to aid men (well actually boys) in overcoming their issues. That women should not be sex slaves who are there to pleasure men for their sake.

Finally, King himself tried to distance himself from it saying that the sex scene takes place from the perspective of an adult looking back. Maybe it happened, maybe it didn´t. Maybe its an artistic device to use sex as a bridging moment between childhood and adulthood (again, these are 11 year olds in the book)

[–] Faridah (1334) 6 years ago

I found the whole thing very troubling.

[–] DTChau (79) 6 years ago

Nah that is totally messed up.

[–] OhHeyBro (361) 6 years ago

WTF mayne. Serious?

That's messed up.

[–] atd8vii (592) 6 years ago

Old news.

"And what about the sh*t weasels, the ones that blast out the basement door?" - Col Curtis

[–] tlm550 (188) 6 years ago

If you Google King’s statement on it, you’ll come upon a quote traced back to a forum on Stephenking.com from November 2013 that reads:

I wasn’t really thinking of the sexual aspect of it. The book dealt with childhood and adulthood –1958 and Grown Ups. The grown ups don’t remember their childhood. None of us remember what we did as children–we think we do, but we don’t remember it as it really happened. Intuitively, the Losers knew they had to be together again. The sexual act connected childhood and adulthood. It’s another version of the glass tunnel that connects the children’s library and the adult library. Times have changed since I wrote that scene and there is now more sensitivity to those issues.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

It's more of a gang bang than an orgy. They each take turns with Beverly.

It's been decades since I read the book, but that scene stands out in my memory. It was as bizarre as it sounds.

Another observation King has made about it is that he was deep into his alcoholism and drug abuse when he wrote that.

[–] Lootrock (149) 5 years ago

I don't buy that intellectualized bullshit of a reason for why they ran a train on her. 11yr olds aren't deep thinkers; certainly not a group of them! From what it sounds like is that she is promiscuous at such a young age from the sexual abuse committed by her father which is the most obvious answer which is what makes that scene even grosser. Sure it's normal to her, but as adults we know why its happening. As for the boys, some are already sexualized by that age, but most aren't considering they haven't gone through puberty yet.