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What's the point?

posted 8 years ago by CharlotteGoldenblatt
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So my friends and I were discussing this after seeing this movie.

Zahra's mission was to expose the village's barbaric practice and the injustice soraya endured. She had to get her story out there. She successfully did so and seemed like majority of the western condemned this practice and the inequality between the two sexes continued to get exposed. But at the end of the day, so what? And what now? I can be as angry as I want to be about this story but no matter how much exposure it gets, nothing ever changes. We can't change or control what happens in other countries especially in those small remote villages that never get noticed. Women are still dying and being mistreated in the most
barbaric ways. But WE VANT CHANGE ANYTHING nor can we control or impose our own laws on these people. So my question again is, what is the point? We know these things happen but there's not much we can do except for cry in tears or get angry for them.

[–] leybadana 8 years ago

So my friends and I were discussing this after seeing this movie.

Zahra's mission was to expose the village's barbaric practice and the injustice soraya endured. She had to get her story out there. She successfully did so and seemed like majority of the western condemned this practice and the inequality between the two sexes continued to get exposed. But at the end of the day, so what? And what now? I can be as angry as I want to be about this story but no matter how much exposure it gets, nothing ever changes. We can't change or control what happens in other countries especially in those small remote villages that never get noticed. Women are still dying and being mistreated in the most
barbaric ways. But WE VANT CHANGE ANYTHING nor can we control or impose our own laws on these people. So my question again is, what is the point? We know these things happen but there's not much we can do except for cry in tears or get angry for them.

i feel you. its a helpless sick feeling one gets after watching this. i think the exposure is good but you are correct...nothing changes.

"Say Auf Wiedersehen to your Nazi balls"!

[–] DodoPatak (118) 6 years ago

I'm sure many people have said 100 years ago about Women's rights movement "what's the point, things are never gonna change". But progress was made. It took time, and it's still happening.. Even today, in the most developed countries, women are still not completely equal to men.

Point is to make as much emphasis on the subject as possible. To repeat it over and over. If there is a tiniest chance it might influence someone who can influence someone in the position to make a difference, so people's mindset can change. Gradually. Not tomorrow, but in 10, 20, 50, 100 years maybe. It's still a progress, no matter how slow it may seem.

[–] masterhasanofbolu 8 years ago

it's not pointless. it's not really helping those women directly. it just makes you see there is no "innocent religious belief". as long as there are people who identify themselves as muslim, christian or whatever, horrible deeds in name of religion are justified. stoning is clearly horrible but think of all the smaller things that are immune to criticism because they're people's beliefs.

[–] DodoPatak (118) 6 years ago

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[–] not_a_virus.exe (1267) 6 years ago

Why do we have to drag in every other religion into the fold when criticizing one? It seems that whenever we see westboro protesting funerals, everyone is quick to criticize Christianity, but then when we see Muslims throwing gay people off rooftops, or throwing acid in women's face for refusing to wear the veil, well now it magically becomes "all religion". Can't fucking talk about Islam on its own merits can we?

[–] AP (5259) 6 years ago

It reminds me of an episode of Real Time where Bill Maher, Sam Harris and Ben Affleck discuss Islamic extremism. Harris and Maher, two men who have been critical of all religions in equal measure, pointed out that there are a lot of people who only seem to be offended when Islam is criticized but not any other religions. Ben Affleck proceeded to prove their point by flipping his lid that they criticized Islam.

[–] not_a_virus.exe (1267) 6 years ago

I remember that. The knee-jerk reaction "progressives" have to defend Islam even when criticizing it, it as stifling and regressive as you can get. And yet these people think THEY'RE the enlightened ones. They feel "safe" to attack Christians because they know nothing will happen, but kowtow to Islam because they're afraid of being labeled racist. Nothing but pathetic cowards all of them.

[–] Satan2016 (23490) 6 years ago

That's Real Time. Popular on YouTube.

[–] AP (5259) 6 years ago

Sorry, my OP should say Real Time.