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I hate the beatles...

posted 14 years ago by Monsieur_Arkadin
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However this film looks interesting.

I quite enjoyed "Across the Universe", (as a one time watch only.)

But overall I cannot stand the band. They do nothing for me whatsoever, which is only made worse by the obligatory Beatle-love everyone seems to believe in.

I don't mind if someone likes the Beatles, so I get frustrated when people seem so offended that I dislike them.

I understand that they were innovative, fun, and great for their time, but in my mind they have been surpassed, and that doesn't necessarily apply to modern times.

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Jack White killed a man with his bare hands.... While singing and playing guitar.

[–] IceKeyHunter 14 years ago

I like the Beatles a lot, but you're allowed to dislike them.

However, keep this in mind: my girlfriend hated the Beatles, like you do, until I had her listen to Revolver and Rubber Soul. Her reaction was, "Holy crap, I didn't know they could make music like this! I had only ever heard the stuff they re-play over and over in movies like Across the Universe."

Songs like "Tomorrow Never Knows," "Taxman," "And Your Bird Can Sing," "She Said She Said," "Run For Your Life," "You Won't See Me" had thoroughly impressed her and proved to her the Beatles' worth.

My point is, whether you love or hate the Beatles, chances are you still haven't given them the attention they deserve. I don't think it's possible to think that the Beatles made poor music when their styles were so eclectic and experimental. There is at least one Beatles song for everybody, I imagine.

I prefer other '60s bands like the Stones and the Beach Boys, but I still believe the Beatles deserve every word of praise they've received. Perhaps you've just been listening to the wrong tracks, as my girlfriend had been.

[–] JNagarya 14 years ago

"And Your Bird Can Sing" is amazing! Even for the guitar work alone!

Anyone who listens to enough music, then comes to The Beatles, will instantly recognize how extraordinary their music was -- AND REMAINS.

Rolling Stones? They were going to release their cover of Chuck Berry's "Come On"; instead, they released "I Wanna be Your Man," which Lennon-McCartney wrote for them in about 15 minutes, in a back room in a club. THAT became a hit -- and inspired Jagger and Richards to try WRITING songs.

And Lennon was responsible for The Rolling Stones getting onto Ed Sullivan, because it was Lennon who told Ed Sullivan, "Get The Rolling Stones". He did that because The Beatles and The Rolling Stones were good friends.

Elvis pushed the door opened, then walked away. Then the door slammed shut. The Beatles kicked the door down for all those who followed.

I liked The Beach Boys; but The Beatles showed them as the provincials they were: a regional band, limited largely to California culture -- surfing, and cars.

[–] theteeto 14 years ago

You're allowed to hate the Beatles, so long as you also admit to hating all music made in the past 50 years.

[–] silent_protester 14 years ago

Not all of the music in the last 50 years has Beatles influences. So that comment is frankly irritating.

[–] Shattered_Wake 13 years ago

Actually, that's wrong. As long as he loves Elvis, he can hate the Beatles. I'm not a Beatles fan, but I own everything Elvis ever did (film & music). If it wasn't for him, there'd be no road paved for the Beatles. By your (idiotic) logic, if one dislikes Elvis, they must dislike the Beatles & everyone else.

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[–] Naughty-God 14 years ago

I like many songs from the Beatles and don't consider myself a "fan" to any extent, but I disagree with your poorly contrived statement that they've been surpassed. To this day I don't think any rock group as exceeded the Beatles from a commercial and artistic standpoint. Even their contemporaries the Rolling Stones were too busy trying to be hip to the sounds and trends of their time while the Beatles just stayed focused on their music until they knew it couldn't go any further.

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[–] Poke504 14 years ago

OP: I'm assuming that the kind of "music" you listen to is Lil' Wayne, Chris Brown, etc. If so, that would explain a lot. If not, then as long as you've actually listened to the Beatles...I have no reason to be pissed off.

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[–] Monsieur_Arkadin 14 years ago

OP: I'm assuming that the kind of "music" you listen to is Lil' Wayne, Chris Brown, etc. If so, that would explain a lot. If not, then as long as you've actually listened to the Beatles...I have no reason to be pissed off.

This board has gotten huge, and I don't think I can appropriately respond to everyone. But I am compelled to respond to this. You have just proved my point. According to this Dislike of Beatles = Love of Rap. I get frustrated by the feeling that I'm an idiot for having different musical tastes than "everyone else."

I like all sorts of bands and types of music. My favorites are: Roy Orbison, The White Stripes, Meat Puppets, Queens of the Stone Age, Ben Folds, Bob Dylan, Damien Rice, OutKast, The Mountain Goats, Nine Inch Nails, Thao, and Radiohead.

I never said I disliked bands that were influenced by the Beatles, and I never said they sucked. Sure they "changed" music in the 1950's but they were far from the first "rock band" they were just the first to hit it big. If they hadn't changed music, I honestly believe, someone else would've.

As for "surpassed" I think they have been. Feel free to disagree, but I think it's been decades, bands took a lot of the basic ideas of the Beatles and improved upon them. Keep in mind I'm speaking musically here, not culturally.

As for culturally, I think popularity is a piss poor measure of greatness. Sure, they affected millions of people. So has Shakespear, someone who is largely only read, because teachers tell students he's brilliant, so then they tell their children he's brilliant, etc... It's a just a lack of free thinking... (once again in my opinion.

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Jack White killed a man with his bare hands.... While singing and playing guitar.

[–] theteeto 14 years ago

So, you hate the Beatles AND Shakespeare. Ain't you just too cool for school? You're not like the "everyone else", no sir, a real rebel, the genuine article.

Hey, Holden, please do us all a favor and go away.

[–] imturk77 14 years ago

I hste people who hate the Beatles.

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[–] JNagarya 14 years ago

1. You're being deliberately provocative in effort to rile people up.

2. If The Beatles had in fact been surpassed, we'd all know not only that, but also who it was that allegedly surpassed them.

3. That we don't know 2. means they have not been surpassed.

"Hating" The Beatles is a pose by those who want to be "different," or are jealous of them, or because they blew the crap they loved off the radio (look up "Hooka Tooka," the #1 by Chubby Checker just before The Beatles arrived).

I've heard it all, and all of it is uninformed, and essentially based on jealousy and anger:

How dare they show me that the music I loved before they came along was C-R-A-P? How DARE they make me feel stupid?

If is, of course, STUPID to blame others for one's own feelings.

[–] Monsieur_Arkadin 14 years ago

That last post stopped making sense half way through.

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Jack White killed a man with his bare hands.... While singing and playing guitar.

[–] strykergamer 14 years ago

People who don't like them have not really listened to them, haven't really tuned in to their wavelength. You have to climb the tree before you get the view.

[–] Monsieur_Arkadin 14 years ago

I have listened to them. Every album as a matter of fact.

Also,
While I do truly appreciate the people who actually read my post, and respond, and presented a decent wavelength of thought, the majority of you have simply proved my point: It has become socially unacceptable to dislike the Beatles. This is what frustrates, and why I can't help but resent them.

If not for this I would merely "not be a fan" but this social aspect to the band is why I use the word "hate."

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Jack White killed a man with his bare hands.... While singing and playing guitar.

[–] simplykyla 14 years ago

fatrat - i really wasn't going to reply to this thread, but your last post bears response. and that is this:

it would seem that you hate them because it is socially unacceptable NOT to hate them and this aggravates you.
and yet you claimed to have listened to every album. but this must be a lie, because i know that i cannot listen to every album of someone i hate; in fact, i would barely be able to make it through one album. hence the term "hating."

it is not possible NOT POSSIBLE to listen to all of the beatles albums, every single one, and still hate them in the end.

the simple fact of it is, it should be about the MUSIC and i don't think with you it is. it's about resenting them because you're not allowed to resent them. and so you've missed the point, and missed out on so much.

i sentence you to a lifetime in prison listening to nothing but beatles music... and i would hope, by the end of your life, you could finally make an educated opinion on what you have heard and not what has been said.

because society doesn't matter. what people do or don't say about the beatles doesn't matter. it's about the MUSIC, plain and simple.

i only wish for you that it was.

[–] Shaolin_Apu 14 years ago

It can be really frustrating when people leave you with only two options about the Beatles: love them, or hate them. You rather seem to be 'respectfully indifferent', which I think should be an option too. I am a Beatles fan myself, but I would hate them too if it was mandatory to like them. Some fans are really making a big unfavor to the Beatles.

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[–] simplykyla 14 years ago

it's fine not to like them, to be indifferent, whatever.

but hate them?

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[–] DanTheMan071 14 years ago

"I have listened to them. Every album as a matter of fact.

Also,
While I do truly appreciate the people who actually read my post, and respond, and presented a decent wavelength of thought, the majority of you have simply proved my point: It has become socially unacceptable to dislike the Beatles. This is what frustrates, and why I can't help but resent them.

If not for this I would merely "not be a fan" but this social aspect to the band is why I use the word "hate."

So you're upset and you would discredit The Beatles because they make you feel like an outcast because you're not into their music? Don't blame The Beatles or say that they weren't good because you have issues with being unpopular. If something is "socially unacceptble" then blame society. You would be more accurate in saying "I hate society because they make me like The Beatles" or "I hate society because everyone loves the popular ones". Stop hating

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[–] MrAwersome 14 years ago

It's socially unacceptable to dislike the Beatles? Hardly. Intentionally antagonizing fans by going to a John Lennon messageboard and loudly proclaiming you hate the Beatles might have something to do with that.

[–] Just_Opinions 14 years ago

"You can't do that."

-John Lennon