I Am Giving Up On Christianity...

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Touche.

Though I would argue that Navaros doesn't represent "alot" [sic] of homosexuals. He is one sad, solitary case of everything that can possibly go wrong, will. He's the living, breathing epitome of Murphy's Law.

More fish for Kunta

"If the bible were to be re-written at some point from it's original context, chances are there would be the original text somewhere else. "

Any "original text" would just be taken from the oral tradition - a highly suspect method when it comes to accuracy. Never heard of chinese whispers? NONE of the gospels were actually written until years after the event.

"What evidence do you have that supports your notion? "

Religious wars alone would verify this (check your history books) and that's not even looking at ethnic cleansing, perseutions etc. carried out by the Christian church.

" Perhaps those were mistakes on the apostle’s part?"

Perhaps so, but that doesn't stop Christians using their 'mistakes' to perscute others.


"Ignorance is not a privilege, it's a handicap"

“Everything you said in the 2nd paragraph of your post is true, I tell you that whatever negative impression you got from Christianity was due to Christian's ultimately failing their job.”

Amen to that, I believe that people who call themselves ‘Christians’ are no better than most oppressors throughout history. Now, I do not have faith, but that doesn’t mean many of the teachings of the bible, especially Jesus Christ, cannot resonate today. A man who afflicted the comfortable and comforted the afflicted. It’s a good message. But those who condemn innocent people today are no better than those casting stones in the bible. All Christians? No, not all, many do good in their community, but a shame that even they are shunned and judged by many who believe their kindness is corrupted and go against their view on the bible.

“If the bible were to be re-written at some point from it's original context, chances are there would be the original text somewhere else. Last I looked, that wasn't the case. Also, the reason why you choose to believe that the bible was ratified is to suite your belief that the bible is meaningless and therefore doesn't matter.”

Even if is in its original text, then I find a lot of problems with it then. I’ve read some very disturbing things in it, from the death of innocent children to satisfy an angry God to the ownership of slaves. Much of that is from the old testament, but there are stories from the new that sound just as insane. To me the bible does not matter, I’ll give you that. It’s a fable, from virgins giving birth, angels popping up every now and again, and sometimes becoming fallen angels and becoming a force of evil (sounds like a plot from Harry Potter), to conversations with talking snakes to burning bushes. We have men with the ability to part seas so people can safely pass to the dead being resurrected. It’s quite the scene. Even science has conflicting theories as to how the earth came to be, granted, but there’s more proof, logic and reason behind their findings then a series of supernatural events that for some mysterious reason do not occur today. God was more determined to prove his existence to people back in the day it seems.

“What evidence do you have that supports your notion? What particular events have happened due to the bible that conclude that the bible has apparently 'caused more bloodshed then anything else? Was the bible responsible for the holocaust, was the bible responsible for the two World Wars?”

I didn’t say all horrific events were because of the church, but the church has had its fair share of scandal over the many centuries. The power of the internet is amazing, do some research, or if you’d like I can provide many links. The inquisition, witch burnings, child molestation, the crusades, the anti-Semitism that ran rampant in the 20th century in the United States and elsewhere. John Paul II in the year 2000 apologized for much of the past 2,000 years, there was a damn good reason he was issuing an apology.

"The advocation of slavery in the bible is still a mystery to me. I don’t really get how slavery can be something God favors, yet the bible does seem to promote it. Jesus never had anything to say to slaves or gays. It’s only the apostles of God that say homosexuality is wrong as well as all your other points. Perhaps those were mistakes on the apostle’s part? I don’t know. As for women, the only instances of women being silent is where Paul told women to be silent in the church, not husbands. It says in numerous places that husbands are to love their wives as Christ loves the church. So I’m not certain what verses you’re referring to."

Jesus Christ is, for a lack of a better way of putting, the mascot for what Christians should be like. You're right, he never once said anything about or against homosexuality or slavery. Those who wrote the bible could very well have had an agenda or an opinion of their own, or misinterpreted the image and message of God. I have don't know, I personally don’t believe there is a God or that he told anyone his meanings or intentions. I believe he is an invention of man, the one thing that people fear the most is death. What a comfort to believe we live in on in another state of conscience being in paradise. Many people feel this life would be empty without that notion. I think they are entitled to their beliefs and their faith, I don’t intend to patronize them. My problem with this faith is when it becomes public policy to deny basic human rights to people, Jesus was never a Republican nor politician in any form. Yet politicians throw his name around cheaply believing God is somehow swaying the people in their favor so they can do good in God’s name. Jesus never needed a ballot box or debate with other people proclaiming themselves to be prophets. He just went out and did good. If he were alive today the last place he would be is in front of a camera or a rally denouncing anyone else.