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A Dragon Is not a Slave

posted 6 years ago by Alerra (244)
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Dany says this twice. Once to the creepy guy in Astapor who sells her the Unsullied, and then again to Jon when they're in the dragon pits outside Kings' Landing. And others say similar things. Jorah tells Dany that a dragon cannot be tamed, even by its mother, and Tyrion implies as such when he unchains the dragons in Mereen.

So what, if anything, might this mean for Viserion? If a dragon is not a slave and cannot be tamed, could that mean something for future battles? Is Viserion completely bound to the Night King's will, or might there still be part of him that belongs to Dany?

[–] McQualude (4231) 6 years ago

I think it just means that a dragon in captivity withers away. Tyrion spoke about it when he released the dragons in the basement. A metaphor for the human spirit.

[–] zeesha (1759) 6 years ago

Dany is mother of dragons mainly because she can stand the dragon flame. I think her capability has everything to do with her being a Targaryen. We don't know yet who the hell the Night King was, but he certainly can ride a dragon like Dany. So maybe he was a Targaryen too? Won't that be interesting?

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

Danerys is the mother of dragons because she hatched them and raised them from newborns to adulthood, and that created a bond of sorts. Not slavish devotion on their part, but they love her and would never ever try to find out whether her inborn flameproofing would allow her to survive dragon fire. (I suspect not.)

There are people who keep wild animals or wild hybrids, such as dogs that are part wolf. Such animals will form a bond with their humans and will even do some things the humans want, but they won't follow orders the way regular dogs do. I think keeping dragons us a bit like that, including the fact that it's incredibly difficult to make a wild animal understand what you want it to do.

[–] zeesha (1759) 6 years ago

Oh mine. You are right, Otter. So far, there is no proof that she can stand the dragon flame. That is my bold guess and I might be wrong (I hope not). Which make it more heart-pounding to image the upcoming dogfight (dragonfight). Most of us would probably go nuts, if our dear Dany get roasted by the flame of her own dead "child", Viserion, the ice dragon...(GRRM, Dare you!)

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

Even if she could withstand regular dragon fire, which I doubt, there's no way she could survive super-cold zombie dragon fire! Any more than the NK could withstand super-hot regular dragon fire, the last time he came south there weren't any dragons in Westeros so it wouldn't have been a problem before.

And who knows what the zombie dragon will do when it sees Mommy. It's possible for a eight to break the NK's control with magical help, as seen in the Coldhabds business. Who knows about dragons, to here is no answer to that question as there was never a test subject before this.

[–] Alerra (244) 6 years ago

If the NK is a Targ, it would be interesting to see how he got that way. He and his zombies haven't been seen for over 8000 years, and Aegon the Conqueror didn't come over from Valyria until about 300 years prior to the start of the show.

That doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't any Targs in Westeros a long time ago, though. Maybe the First Men are considered the ancestors of everyone on earth, which would have included the Targs. An interesting theory.

[–] zeesha (1759) 6 years ago

We have a young Three-Eyed Raven now, right? Is it possible that the NK is also new and as young as John snow?