Bryan's daughter was a spoilt Brat! - Taken (2009) Discussion

[–] Hillius 10 years ago

Could not possibly agree with you more. Just having gotten around to seeing this otherwise excellent film, Maggie Grace was just plain horrid. What an ungrateful spoiled brat of a daughter. At the end I couldn't even believe she didn't want to ride home from the airport with her own father who had saved her ass from the slavers. Probably was more interested in sucking up to wealthy Stuart to see what else she was getting now. Lenore was also awful. That's precisely the type of woman who makes me never want to get married or even date! I felt pretty sorry for Liam in this one.

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[–] vicky_lc2001-1 9 years ago

The daughter was spoiled but she seemed to be more level headed than her friend. She could certainly turn into a brat with the way the mom was raising her. I blame the mother mostly than Kim.

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[–] atac57 9 years ago

I thought the horse thing was pretty weird. Unless she was the country girl horse riding type (didn't seem like she was, she wanted to be a singer), I don't understand why a girl her age would get so excited about that. They made her seem more childlike than the typical 17 year old.

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[–] Victoriousn09 9 years ago

The daughter was spoiled but she seemed to be more level headed than her friend. She could certainly turn into a brat with the way the mom was raising her. I blame the mother mostly than Kim.

Me, too. I didn't particularly think that Kim was spoiled, I more so thought that she was being steered in the wrong direction by her mother. What really got me was when Bryan found out that Kim lied and confronted Lenore about it and all she had to say was, "...I know." And then, she proceeds to try and justify it. I'm like, "......is she serious? I wouldn't be surprised if Kim did turn into a spoiled brat.

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[–] Johanesse (432) 5 years ago

To be honest, I really detested Maggie Crace's portrayal of Shannon in "Lost", so therefore I was pretty surprised that she was at least more tolerable in this movie. She was definitively spoiled and immature, yet still managed to have a certain sweetness in her. Which made her tolerable.

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[–] MovieFan00 (211) 5 years ago

Lenore didn’t even do anything wrong. Brian was an absent dad/husband, but because Lenore’s husband was rich, you felt bad for the deadbeat and don’t want to get married? Makes sense.

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[–] SisterSuzy101 (349) 5 months ago

Deadbeat? Bryan loved Kim more than anything!
Yes, he was on the road a lot due to his job but maintained a solid relationship with her and he never missed her birthdays - and he took an early retirement to make up for lost time with her.

Plus, look at the length he went and risks he took to save her - need I say more!?

Deadbeat implies carelessness, selfishness and laziness, none of which Bryan Mills represents.

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[–] mcoop2075 10 years ago

Watching it right now. I was thinking the same thing. Guess I didn't pay much attention the first time I saw it.

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[–] icaptainchaos 10 years ago

Exactly.

"Hi - I bought you a karaoke machine thing"

"Oh thanks Da .... OH LOOK A HORSE!"

<<runs off in that ridiculously stupid way>>

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[–] MysticInvestigations 9 years ago

It was the mother's influence on her since she clearly spent more time with her. The mother then marrying some rich guy didn't help matters.

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[–] HenryCW 9 years ago

That was exactly what I thought. The daughter was a little immature but definitely not bad. The poor parenting she received from the mother certainly did not help. In everything Lenore did, she tried to turn Kim against her own father. She tried to prevent Bryan from seeing his own daughter in her birthday party to give her the present. Perhaps it's just me, but I certainly don't feel it quite right for her to allow some man she had just married (Stuart) to give a super-luxurious party for his stepdaughter's 17th birthday and give her a horse(!) as present! Perhaps Lenore saw that as an opportunity to humiliate Bryan, whose gift from the electronic store was probably like less than 0.1% of the value of Stuart's horse.

Then she conspired with her daughter to deceive Bryan, getting his signature to allow Kim to go to Paris, but not telling him that she was actually following a band through Europe. Here, again her signal to the daughter was that the father was a mean guy while she herself was loving and understanding.

I think it was greatly to Kim's credit that despite all her mother's effort to turn her against Bryan, she still loved her father. You could see that she was always happy to see him and was genuinely delighted to receive his present. She was immature and perhaps a bit spoilt, but basically a sweet person.

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[–] heckles 9 years ago

I was REALLY bothered by that horse thing. I know it was a minor contrivance by a Hollywood scriptwriter, but a horse is, or ought to be, a damn big commitment on a young person's time. Here it's like "A horse! I'll call her 'Duchess!' Bye bye Duchess I'm off to Paris for eight weeks!"

Her mother and well-off stepfather (who, we assume, will board the horse) should have stepped in and said, "Oh no you don't, young lady! You're going to be spending your summer doing some serious stable mucking! Not as fun as the Louvre but you wanted this creature!"

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[–] SisterSuzy101 9 years ago

Well who knows, maybe having the horse at her birthday party (i.e. hired from an Equestrian) was her present rather than the horse as a pet. Because I don't think it's even legal to keep a horse in a built up residential area like that, giving the amount of space and daily exercise they need.

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[–] LionInWinter 8 years ago

As someone whose family own a bunch of horses, this isn't true. You can own a horse and not take care of it 24/7 if you have the money. Any riding academy will do that for you.

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[–] Dark_Sithlord 8 years ago

Spoiled is stating it mildly. She got a horse, plus a trip to Paris following U2 around Europe...must have been 10 or 12 stops. Plus concert tickets for all those shows? Plus meals, travel, and accommodations...must have been a pretty penny.

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