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Major plot holes really ruined it for me and my kids! Spoiler alert!


This stinker had so many plot holes that it smelled like swiss cheese by the time we were through with it that's for sure.

1. Why would a guy with a knife in his head look at the place where he hid his money? DUH!
2. How could a police officer who took an oath be involved with robbers? Kind of gives a new spin on the famous term "cops and robbers" don't it? DUH!
3. How could an upstanding Christian girl choose to be a smoker and risk damaging the temple that is her body, given to her by God? DUH!
4. Furthermore, why would a nice Christian girl even attempt to fornicate with an obvious Catholic? DUH!
5. Finally, how could a nice Christian girl murder someone even though he was obviously a Catholic and probably deserved it? DUH!
6. How could a smart upstanding young Christian man possibly miss a train in the middle of the Antarctic? DUH!
7. How could a Spanish Catholic man smuggle obvious containers of illegal hard drugs over the Japanese border without raising any suspicion? DUH!
8. Why would the evil Catholic man hide all his money on a dead body instead of in the good Christian girl's suitcase like he did with the toy animals? DUH!
9. Why would the robbers steal a train just because they wanted to harass and possibly torture the nice American Christian couple? DUH!
10. How could a girl who had her legs cut off suddenly walk to the middle of nowhere to look for the money and the drugs? DOUBLE DUH!

I could go on and on about this movie's shortcomings. The wife and I both agree that this movie put the typical Hollywood negative spin on Christians. For that I give it a failing grade. Also, the plot holes were so numerous that I often found myself gasping for air! Suffice it to say that this is not a good movie at all. F-!

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<<<...4. Furthermore, why would a nice Christian girl even attempt to fornicate with an obvious Catholic? DUH!...>>>

That's a plot hole? You have a hole in your head.

But enough of you. I have some beefs of my own...

SPOILERS WARNING:

Jessie is a murderer, plain and simple. She had no reason to beat Carlos' to death. Excessive use of force. She should not have gotten away with murder. Is she a psycho? Will she do it again, maybe to her wimp husband?

Abbie gets the filthy lucre at the end, and pulls it off of the corpse of her ex-boyfriend. Nice lady. Of course, she leaves tons of forensic evidence that put her at the scene of the crime. Eventually, she'll be caught. She's guilty of being an accessory. She's crooked through and through.

In all, these are scummy people. The only one with a slightest bit of redeeming value is Roy, but he's such a choo-choo train loving, immature dunce, that you wonder whether Jessie will eventually bump him off, too.

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Not going to address the first poster. Obviously Christians come in all sorts and most have sinned at some point in their life. Not sure what the point of this initial post is.

Second poster -
Jessie's response in beating Carlos is a as much a response to the demons in her past as it is his attempts at seduction and potential sexual assualt. Maybe she had been raped in her lost girl past, maybe she was enraged that he had tempted her and she had almost succombed, maybes shes seen too many movies where the girl thinks shes stopped the bad guy only to have him keep coming after her in later scenes and she wanted to make sure he was stopped.

Abby will likely get away with the money. Her only potential issue will be smuggling the cash through customs. By the time the Russians find the body, she will be back in the US and the Russians won't be interested in chasing after the murderer of a known/belived drug runner.

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"How can a police officer who took an oath be involved with robbers?"

Ummmm, hello from planet earth. This happens all the time in real life as well as the movies. Stick to Disney movies, it appears that is all you've seen before.

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Wow, since when are all Christians holier than thou? I'm a Christian and I'm no saint. Christians can't lose track of time and miss a train? What are you taking about?? Anyways, I'm really posting to inform you that Antarctica is in the south pole. DUH! You must be referring to the Arctic, which they weren't technically in anyways. DOUBLE DUH!! How can nice Christian folks have such poor understanding of world geography??

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Americaloveswar nothing that you mentioned was a plot hole, they were all your opinions. And some of those were wrong. You suck at life

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As a fellow Christian I will respond to this. I will admit, I anticipated Christians possibly being put in a negative light when Jessie and Roy were first seen on their mission trip, but a lot of the rest of what you said makes me wonder if you had your eyes open when you watched the movie.

1- to move the plot forward plain and simple, would you really want to watch the police search the entire ship looking for the reason he was killed, no. it moved the movie forward.

2-there are dirty cops in movies. that's clearly evident in almost any movie that involves cops. simple plot device used in more movies than i care to count.

3-"How could an upstanding Christian girl choose to be a smoker and risk damaging the temple that is her body, given to her by God?"----my father smokes. He's one of the most amazing Christians I know. Some people have their vices, my father started when he was 17--it's been hard for him to give up. I'll never smoke because it is repulsive and I want to live a long time, but don't make the assumption that anyone who smokes is a terrible person and a insincere Christian. In the movie, Jessie admitted she gave up her destructive habit of drinking.

4-This I will admit is a fault on her character. She reverted back to her old sinful ways when she was met with temptation. Carlos being Catholic has nothing to do with it. The way you worded this question makes it seem like it would have been okay for her to fornicate with someone else.

5-Again, Carlos being Catholic has nothing to do with it. She murdered him out of excessive self protection. A few strikes would have incapcitated him, she just went the extra mile in putting him down, a little excessive, but a part of me thought he deserved it.

6-I agree with you on this, it was just silly of him to miss the train, but it makes for the important plot twist. And it was Siberia, not Antartica, hence the title of the movie.

7-Can't answer that one, except maybe he picked up the drugs in China, after he arrived from Japan. And who's to say that they actually were from Japan. They were drug mules, lying is what they do.

8-Well, the "evil Catholic man" did what anyone who deals with drugs would, separate the product from the money. Why would you put all of it one bag? What if the bag gets stolen? You're out of product and your money. It makes compete sense.

9-Because they can. Plain and simple.

10-This is where I question whether you were watching the movie. She didn't have her legs cut off. She was just cut up. They scarred her and broke her foot.

Overall, the movie was ingtriguing. It showed the shortcomings of a flawed woman with a destructive past. I thought it was pretty clear that she wasn't really a Christian, just putting on the "good person persona". On the train, when they first met Abby and Carlos she makes a reference that they were there for Roy's church, she then corrected herself feeling she made a mistake. It was obvious she had demons from her past she wasn't rid of.
I'll admit she was a terrible person, but that's what the movie was about.
I don't feel it portrays all Christians negatively...just this one whom we're not sure was even really a Christian.

So, in the future, make sure you have your facts straight about a movie, before railing into it, so you don't appear to be nuts.

God Bless!

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1.Why would a guy with a knife in his head look at the place where he hid his money? DUH!
How do you know he looked on his own free will? Maybe the attacker put a knife to his head and told the guy to tell him where the drugs were, and while the victim looked in that direction, the attacker stabbed him. Maybe the attacker knew exactly where they were, knifed the guy by surprise, went to the secret compartment and the last thing the victim ever did was watch the attacker get the drugs? Who knows. Not sure why it's an implausible scene - just because the audience wasn't in on the details? Even the police didn't know.

2. How could a police officer who took an oath be involved with robbers? Kind of gives a new spin on the famous term "cops and robbers" don't it? DUH!
No, it's just f-ing Russia. In 2008, there were 12,000 officials accused of corruption. I read a news story recently about a prosecutor there who said income from corruption of government officials is roughly 1/3 of the entire Russian budget. Not sure you've paid attention to the past 2,500 years but corruption has been a theme in drama and poetry since the ancient Greeks.

3. How could an upstanding Christian girl choose to be a smoker and risk damaging the temple that is her body, given to her by God? DUH!
Why does any Christian at any point in history do anything that risks damaging the body? Human beings are flawed.

4. Furthermore, why would a nice Christian girl even attempt to fornicate with an obvious Catholic? DUH!
Are Catholics not Christian? Ever read about the fall of man in Genesis? How was this guy obviously a Catholic? I must have missed that. Let's assume he was. Why would an obvious Catholic attempt to covet his neighbor’s wife?

5. Finally, how could a nice Christian girl murder someone even though he was obviously a Catholic and probably deserved it? DUH!
The obvious Catholic probably deserved to be murdered but you're upset she killed him? That makes sense. One reason she killed him was that she found him beyond revolting and her suppressed-dangerous side, or whatever you want to call it, overruled rational action. I didn't see that being out of her character.

6. How could a smart upstanding young Christian man possibly miss a train in the middle of the Antarctic? DUH!
I don't know, why not ask Jesus why he arrived too late for Lazarus's funeral. And it's Arctic, not Antarctic - but it's not even Arctic because the TSR doesn't cross the Arctic circle.

7. How could a Spanish Catholic man smuggle obvious containers of illegal hard drugs over the Japanese border without raising any suspicion? DUH!
How many f-ing drugs are smuggled anywhere every two seconds? Geez. Is this for real?

8. Why would the evil Catholic man hide all his money on a dead body instead of in the good Christian girl's suitcase like he did with the toy animals? DUH!
I don't understand what the hell you're talking about. Mr. Evil Catholic hid his money on a dead body? Toy animals? They were Matryoshka dolls, and the guy hid his money when he was alive. What would you rather be caught with - legal cash or a suitcase full of heroin? Why the hell would you hide a ton of money in someone else's suitcase? So they can steal it themselves and get out of the country immediately?

9. Why would the robbers steal a train just because they wanted to harass and possibly torture the nice American Christian couple? DUH!
Yeah, they liked harassing and torturing nice Americans for no good reason. One of the pleasures of life.

10. How could a girl who had her legs cut off suddenly walk to the middle of nowhere to look for the money and the drugs? DOUBLE DUH!
Remember when her legs were NOT cut off, and she was listening to the bad guys say how they HAD the drugs and now they WANTED the money, and she begged Jessie to tell her where Carlos was so she could get the MONEY because the bad guys had the DRUGS?

I cannot believe you even watched this movie.

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Response to 5.
A few more strikes still and she could have decapitated him. A part of me felt she deserved the same. Hehe..

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Sarcasm? Please, please tell me this is sarcasm.

One shot is what it's all about.
-Robert De Niro, The Deer Hunter

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Christians shouldn't be watching R rated movies....DUH!!!

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Did you even watch this movie? You don't know a single thing about these characters! How about instead of whining about the movie, actually focus in on what you're watching and it might make sense.

This might change you're mind on almost half of your statements: Jessie is not a Christian DUH! How did you not pick up on that??? She is only with Roy because he loves her and she loves him DUH! She only went on the trip because she misses her wild adventurous side DUH! And the cop, he wasn't an actual cop DUH! It's easy to fake having a badge. We are given no reason to think he was a real cop. And Abby didn't have her legs cut off DUH! the man was making slices into her legs, not completely cutting them off. She went to the hospital later which would have healed her and allowed her to walk. The robbers didn't steal the train just to harass Jessie and Roy, they did that so they could find the money without being stopped DUH! If any of the passengers would have seen he was a drug dealer and not a cop he wouldn't get away with anything DUH! Next time, try and watch a movie rather than act like you're smart. Every single "plot hole" you listed is ridiculous. Each one shows your lack of understanding of the characters and what actually happened.

But seeing as you say the plot holes in this movie ruined it for you and your kids, my guess is that this is a troll or a prank post. I hope I'm right on this.

the ellipsis was a stupid idea

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Why would a nice Christian man sit down to watch an R rated movie with his kids?

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I think the OP is sarcastic. Either that or he's mad.

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Oh wait haha I get it now, the original poster was joking. I love a good laugh.

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Wow!! The movie was the filthiest pro-Christian ultra-right wing propagande piece since Moses walked down the pike. And this clueless reviewer is complaining that it was ANTI-Christian!?

Folks, we have gotta eradicate these Christian Right freaks portayed in the movie, once and for all. They are more rabid and deadly then 1000 hell-bent Muslims! ;~))

Besides, this ellegedly Christian "parent" is such a dumbass, he/she actually forced his/her own kids to watch a violent R-rated movie all the way through. Yeah, I call that a 'Christian' all right.

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FrankoFerko wrote:"he/she actually forced his/her own kids to watch a violent R-rated movie all the way through. Yeah, I call that a 'Christian' all right."

Correction your Honor, neither I nor my spouse forced or ever will force our children to watch anything. They are both very mature elementary school students and they are allowed to make their own choices and decisions. This is how the Lord deems it and thus how we Deem the Lord. Good Day to You Sir!

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OP you are joke!

It is fun and games until someone gets caught. Then it's rape.

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Ginn you are mean. There is something wrong with your quote. It should be "It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye." It seems that maybe you are a rapist perhaps. Trust in the Lord.

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Wow...by the way, this movie had nothing to do with religion. It really is too bad christians are so easily offended.

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