When teachers could beat kids along with parents we didn't have this many problems. Now if you even raise your voice to your kid. They run to CPS and your kids continue to be bad. Teachers and parents can't discipline kids. So what else is left? Negotiate with them?
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
We are in the generation now of the "participation trophies" that there are no losers and we are all winners, and this is starting to be the backlash. Parents are viewed as poor parents if you ever lay a hand on a child, and the broad stroke of what is and what is not child support is so shrouded up that God help you smack them on the hand or bum, you're now taking mandatory parenting classes about child abuse.
Our country is f&cked. I think that there will be a huge backlash in the next decade about discipline once kids are acting like raped apes and just completely out of control, and therefor in control.
lets teach them to be afraid of us that's always the way to go!
CORDELIA OK Spikes a hero and youre C.E.O of Hell Inc. What freakin bizarro world did I wake up in?
That is correct. Kids should fear adults. What keeps a child from touching a hot stove twice. FEAR of being burned. He has felt that pain and does not want to feel it again. Look no further than nature. When a puppy gets out of line mom doesn't call puppy protective services or put him in time out, she bites him hard and makes sure he understands that that behavior will not be tolerated. It's so simple yet we are born idiots and have to be clever and over complicate it. We now negotiate with children and wonder why they grow up with no respect for authority or society.
shareIt is important to have a respect(that's earned) for them. And to know that there will be consequences for misbehavior. But consistency like that doesn't create fear. One will know the boundaries and know that there is nothing to fear if they are obeyed and know that even though disobedience has negative consequences, those consequences are well understood.Bottom line love, guidance and consistency produces respect, it's violence,intimidation and inconsistency that produces fear.Fearing consequences and fearing people are two different things
P.S. It's also natural for some in the animal kingdom to abandon their young or even cannibalize them to, so yeah.
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Old post buy I need to respond. I saw an ep tonight where the dad smacked the kid that smacked him first and superidiot went nuts. She told him you have abusive tendencies and your family is in danger. What a moron, society will be in danger when all these undisciplined brats grow up. Look at what we are dealing with today, teenagers run around and literally knock out old people on the street for a *beep* game. This is because they lack respect, that is due to lack of fear. Kids don't fear consequences because there are none.
Corporal punishment removed from school = respect removed from children. Just the way it is.
Why do you people always talk about the past as a justification for this type of thing. Do you honestly think lack of beatings is the problem?Correlation doesn't equal causation. IDk how old you are but family dynamics have completely changed people have no time to spend with and actually teach their children. No one has dinner together anymore to just sit and talk and be a good influence on each other. Those are a few things that are contributing factors. Not a lack of beatings.You are not the first person I've seen who seems to imply that a lack of spanking is spawning an epidemic of unruly kids.It's an ongoing pattern of older generation folk complaining about the youth."The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
Socrates (469–399 B.C.)
That's just one to name a few.
Spanking is punishment.
Discipline is the art of self control.
There is a huge difference between the 2, and you can have an extremely well behaved, disciplined child, without using corporal punishment.Discipline taught through consistency, clear rules and expectations, and leadership works much better, and faster.
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Digging up quotes from the past about misbehaving kids doesn't prove that there isn't a problem today. Corporal punishment, at home and at school, is effective. Being kid-whipped, never saying "no", and applauding every time they have a bowel movement is obviously not working.
shareMom says the whole "punish parents for corporal punishment" started in the 1970s/80s, when people who had never had kids (but might have been abused by their own parents) started calling the cops on any parent disciplining a naughty child in public. The most common culprits were gay men and nasty old karens that had never been married and wanted to stick their nose into other people's business and tell them how to live their lives, even if nobody wanted to listen to them. (People called them "old maids" back then). It's thanks to them that we now have at least two generations of spoiled, out-of-control kids and parents aren't allowed to discipline them properly, nor are teachers allowed to punish the little shits and give them what they so richly deserve, no thanks to the child's parents believing their little angel can do no wrong.
Small wonder I think we should have cameras in public school classrooms just for this reason.
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shareYou think it's ok to beat kids? Why?
There is a substantial body of research finding associations between corporal punishment and negative outcomes, including increased aggression, antisocial behavior, and other mental health problems, in children subjected to corporal punishment.
That doesn't mean all kids that are hit by their parents will develop problems, but statistically, kids that are, are much more likely too.
parents aren't allowed to discipline them properly, nor are teachers allowed to punish the little shits and give them what they so richly deserve
I never said beat them. Where did I actually say "it's okay to beat kids?" Come on. Go find the quote. I dare you.
Second, we already have increased aggression, antisocial behavior, and other mental health problems from kids who were never disciplined. How do you explain that?
I have five kids, and a husband, and they all are laughing at you right now for being a coward. One of my sons just joked about how you sound like a guy who's never gotten laid.
LMAO...COME ON...YOUR STORIES ARE GETTING RIDICULOUS...YOU CAN'T HAVE IT EVERY WAY...YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR MOM AND DAD AND BROTHER LIKE YOU ARE A YOUNG WOMAN...YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THE WORLD LIKE YOU ARE A BITTER OLD MAN...YOU SOPEAK OF WOMEN AS IF YOU ARE A MIDDLE AGED SEXIST MAN...AND NOW YOU CLAIM TO BE THE MARRIED MOTHER OF FIVE...WHO HAS HER CHILDREN WATCHING HER MAKE IGNORANT POSTS ON MOVIECHAT?
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