What's so bad about this?


Pitt and Gosling give great performances and a loose reworking of the Leopold & Loeb idea, which is very interesting.

It was tense at times and creepy and didn't feel that bad. I expected about 7.2 or something. Is it just because people don't like Sandra Bullock or something and it wasn't Rope?

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guess what? I read the wikipedia article about the Leopold and Loeb case and something that baffles me (a lot baffles me about it actually) was the fact that the sentence was LIFE but NOT life without the possibility of parole and one of them DID get paroled when he was in his early 50s. WTF? Ok so because they were minors at the time they did not get the death penalty but why EVER let them out? Do you think the kid at the end of Murder by Numbers would EVER get paroled? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. He is getting life with a possibility of parole exactly equal to my chances of getting to give head to Rachael McAdams.

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To creatorof2002: If you haven't done so, I highly recommend you watch "Compulsion," an excellent '59 movie "based" -actually, recounting - the L & L case. Orson Welles plays the defense attorney (who was in fact Clarence Darrow) and his summation - the longest monologue in film history, per IMDb - will, I believe, answer your questions.

Leopold and Loeb weren't minors; they were both 19, I believe, when they killed Robert Franks in 1924. Darrow was a proponent of rehabilitation vs punishment, which (I vaguely recall from a long-ago undergrad Criminal Justice class) was an idea coming into fashion when they were tried. Darrow had them plead guilty so the hearing would be before a judge - the way it worked then/there - as he figured a group of 12 jurors would be more likely to opt for the death penalty, given shared responsibility. Leopold and Loeb each got life plus 99 years; the judge couldn't control what a parole board later chose to do.

And speaking to another interesting post of yours asking Why not lesser crimes? they did in fact start out with petty stuff, and worked their way "up."

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I don't think it's that bad, but the sometime romantic sub-plot with Sam, just doesn't work for me and feels really awkward.🐭

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Pitt and Gosling are fantastic and certainly are the best part of the movie.

However basically all the crap with Sandra Bullock and Ben Chaplin is horrendous

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I liked Bullock, Gosling, and Pitt fine. The movie does feel a little silly sometimes.

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Good thread

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