can someone tell me what xactly the scene is about or if it's really distubing coz i wanted to bring the dvd home to watch it with a couple of friends and my little sister but if the content is really very bad then i'll have to change my mind...
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This scene was very sexy at first, then once Odin gave himself over to his anger and pleasure mixing together, it got a bit disturbing. I felt for Desi a bit once he started to get really rough. But, she did say "I want you to have me how you want me." However, she wasn't expecting him to be that aggressive.
shareShe said "I want you to have me how you want me" because she thought he totally respected her. All the way through their relationship he's never treated her badly or pressurised her into having sex so it's logical for her to think he's not going to want to hurt her the first time they have sex.
She was offering herself to him and placing complete trust in him to look after her. He's an animal for what he did, and possibly moreso later when he completely humiliates her in front of Emily. I don't care if Hugo was screwing with his mind. If someone, whether it's a stranger or a person who supposedly loves you, keeps having sex with you after you say no then it's rape. Simple as that.
"I felt for Desi A BIT once he started to get really rough" - Seriously think about what you just said. You felt for her 'a bit". She was raped by the one person she trusted to take care of her. You should have felt for her more than just a bit.
For all the boys out there who seem to think it was ok- imagine if someone did that to your virginal sister!! Would you think it was just sex then?? I can't believe there's so many men who are so disrespectful of women. It sickens me how anyone could justify what he did to her.
Stop the world- I want to get off!!!!!
there was a rape scene in The Hills Have Eyes? I saw that movie twice and I didnt notive a rape scene.
shareOK I am a male and as one person mentioned if the girl is under 18 it is statutory rape regardless, where I live.
The point in the movie as I see it all reflects back to the conversation where he asks her if she ever rode on handle bars of a Bicycle. He then says he closes his eyes. It's about trusting the Bycycle driver not to crash.
Regardless if you call it rape or not she trusted him and he proved his unworthyness. He crashed.
In my opinion as a male it was rape.
To the OP no I don't think you should let your little sister watch this movie.
She probably wouldn't understand the whole concept and why confuse the young and innocent. Be a responsible older brother. Watch more mature material (designed to your age group) when your sister is not around. Have her watch stuff more designed to her age group.
Don't crash with your sister on the handle bars.
Just my opinion but I hope it helps.
Guys -- It was rape. No doubt about it.
anyway, I didn't think it was really disturbing as much as I thought it was powerful, emotional. I guess I just don't think disturbing was the point they were going for, 'cause that's not the view I saw. It was a really good movie overall, though.
And I suppose that showing the movie to your sister would depend on her age... not that it matters now because that was posted, like, two years ago or something...
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I didn't find it disturbing. I kinda laughed at it.
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it's been forever since i've seen this movie.
but i think the scene was added in to show how much control hugo had over o's thoughts. think about it, if he'd not been given ideas by hugo, then he would've never behaved in such a manner as he did with desi, especially it being her first time to have sex & with their level of trust (before he was gettin suspicious of her friendship with michael, i believe)
anyway, i've read the play as well. it's one of my favorite shakespeare plays. the mind-games that hugo play(ed) (both in the movie & the actual play) is what's disturbing to me.
i grew up with a kid like him, he could talk anyone into anything (and talk himself out of anything) he had a power over most of his friends that couldn't be broken cos he could say or do something & they'd listen or take the fall for him sometimes, cos of the fear they held towards him. he was a manipulative lil bastard, that was for sure, yet he had charm out the wazoo. very much like hugo displayed through out the movie, me thinx.
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A bit late, I know but
You don't see any sexual organs, but it definitely borders on/is rape.
If you've ever read or seen the play Othello, this scene is here to replace the scene were Othella slaps Desdemona.
If you're not okay with watching rape, don't watch it. It was disturbing.
shareI just watched it on youtube... and yes it was disturbing... ugh.
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OK, heres my take. If she gave consent in the beginning, you can't say NO right in the middle of it & besides, they aren't underage so how is rape a factor. That would be like a married couple have sex and in the middle of it, the wife says NO. Well...Not much you can do there because your married. I;m not saying rape is OK I'm just stating that if consent is given in the beginning especially by both parties then NO its not Rape, and yes there is a difference between rape & sex.
shareLike someone else said, I found it more powerful than disturbing.
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Actually, it doesn't matter of you are married or not, it is still rape.
share"OK, heres my take. If she gave consent in the beginning, you can't say NO right in the middle of it & besides, they aren't underage so how is rape a factor. That would be like a married couple have sex and in the middle of it, the wife says NO. Well...Not much you can do there because your married. I;m not saying rape is OK I'm just stating that if consent is given in the beginning especially by both parties then NO its not Rape, and yes there is a difference between rape & sex. "
I disagree.
If at any time a woman or a man feels pressured and does not want to continue, especially if they specifically say no to continue and the other party continues anyway it BECOMES rape.
That's like saying just because a person can't talk and say no means they haven't been raped.
Seriously? Giving consent BEFORE the act begins doesn't mean the guy is free to do whatever he wants with no regard to how the girl is feeling. A woman isn't a sperm depository; she's a human being. She has a right to say no AT ANY POINT. A guy can pull out if he has to. Yes, she told him to do whatever he wanted but she's also a virgin. Sex can be very painful the first time and it's important that the guy respect and understand that. It's not like the sex just "got rough." She looked like she was in agony. She said stop repeatedly and started to cry. Once you add in the fact that he was doing it out of anger just makes everything worse and (hopefully) less justifiable.
And by the way, rape can and does occur within marriage. You make it sound like getting married is like signing up to be a sex slave. "Oh what? You don't feel like having sex tonight? Well, tough we're married and that means I can do you whenever I feel like it and you have no right to refuse because you married me and that's what marriage is all about. That's what "love, honor and cherish" REALLY means." It doesn't matter if it's your first time having sex or if you said yes initially or if you've been married to the person for 50 years, if you say stop and your partner doesn't, it becomes rape.
Kids, both boys and girls, need to be better educated about what constitutes rape. Clearly.
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I just thought I'd pipe in and say to those who, for some reason, believe otherwise: YES, you can say "no" in the middle of sex. And if you do, that makes it rape.
It is such a load of BS that once you get going, the man can't stop. Is he controlled by something/someone other than himself? You are full of $h!t if you say that a man can't stop.
Ugh. Some people make me sick. It was rape. Plain and simple.
And a little help comes in a little glass vial and a gun pressed against her anatomy.
wait a minute! This is somewhere on youtube?? I tried to find the movie on youtube and couldn't. What did you type in? I'd kind of like to see the whole movie. I think I can handle it. Lots of movies like "North Country" and "Speak" have brutal scenes like this. We're studying Othello in my Drama class but I just can't wait till Monday to see any part of the movie "O"! And who's in this scene your all talking about? Desi and her boyfriend? Desi and his friend? What's happening exactly? This intrigues me to see the movie.
shareIts not disturbing, well to me personally, but I did wince. There's no doubt to me that it is rape. She was obviously supposed to be in pain, and she said stop more than once. Soryr guys, even if you're in the middle of it, when the girl is in pain, it means stop not finish and get the hell off.
sharealright, basically.
o is having. hm. i would say casual sex with desi. then he starts to think about her being with another guy and starts to..... go harder and faster. then she tells him to stop and he doesnt.
thats what happens.
All the people killed in the movie don't disturb you? The sex scene does?
You must be crazy.
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i didn't think the scene was that bad, i mean it was bad don't get me wrong but I've seen worse. Bad sex scenes would be like:delieverance, irreversible, and the last house on the left remake.
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Yeah it was disturbing, but it wasn't THAT BAD, yeah I cringed cause he was giving it to her REALLY hard and wouldn't STOP when she said so... Also I cringed at the fact that im a girl I know how sensitive the vagina is whenever you first start having sex (a virgin) plus I couldn't take the screaming and hollering she did for like 10 seconds! It was CrazY!
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Jesus *beep* christ it wasn't that bad. Some of you may as well be wearing tampons.
shareI'm wearing a tampon. Your point?
shareThe point is your too sensitive. Remember it's only a movie. It's not real.
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I didn't make this thread. I just think it's a dumb defense mechanism to say that someone who don't agree with something or don't like something automatically must be bleeding from the vagina rather than just having a differing opinion.
shareDefinately the tamest "rape" scene ive ever watched
shareRape is when you have sex with someone against their will. She told him to stop therefore it is rape.
She may have said he could do what he wanted before but she retracted that and she said it because she thought he was someone who would never hurt her. If you say someone can help themselves to as much of your money as they want then take that back and say they can't it doesnt mean they can continue to take your money from you and it isn't stealing. No it isn't the same thing as what he did. What he did was worse because he was hurting her physically and betraying the trust she showed him.
It is not ok for someone to intentionally inflict pain on someone during sex when they are telling you to stop because they initially consented and enjoyed the sex before it got painful (and when she's crying and telling him to stop it certainly isn't about love to whoever said that).
It wasn't as bad as rape scenes I've seen in films like The Accused and Irreversible because it wasn't gang rape and she wasn't beaten into a coma afterwards but it was still pretty horrible.