How does Padme "Lose the will to live"?


She just gave birth to twins that she noe has to raise. Where does she get the balls to die like that?

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I prefer the theory that Sidious is draining her life to put into Vader to keep him alive by exploiting the link between them.

The medical droids don't understand the Force, so they can't explain it.



also obligatory Dr Ball video
https://youtu.be/eAKtZ_r0V6E?t=36


"He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok"

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Or maybe her force-gifted offspring are draining her life force without realizing it?

Or Vader's rage and misery is affecting her through a mental force link?

Or maybe the medical droid isn't set to human, and it doesn't realize that letting a lot of red fluid run out of the patient isn't a good idea...




“Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

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Or maybe Lucas sucks ass as a writer.

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What do you mean "maybe"!



“Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

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I got the impression that the "no will to live" theory merely became the accepted explanation, but in reality Padme just died in childbirth like women do from time to time. Add the fact that she had twins, went through major stress leading up to the delivery and that she was choked/thrown to the ground by Anakin and it suddenly seems plausible it became too much for one person.

It's clear Padme didn't want to die and that she loved her children, so the implication that her own death is her fault is almost insulting to her memory.

But in any case, her death is an insult period because she wasn't even supposed to die. Leia has memories of her that she recounts in ROTJ. That's my biggest problem with ROTS. They killed her so the ending could be more dramatic and for no other reason.

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Re Leia's memories...

Either Leia's memories came through The Force rather than from direct memory, or that's a big old continuity error. I suppose the former is possible.




“Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

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I don't know why they had to have her die that way. Why not have explicitly known that childbirth killed her instead of the droid makes making it known that it was health related.

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I don't know why they had to have her die that way. Why not have explicitly known that childbirth killed her instead of the droid makes making it known that it was health related.


People most likely would think women dying in child birth should not exist in the SW universe

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Yep. We didnt need to see Padme die! 18 years take place before A New Hope arrives.

The audience could have accepted that she died sometime in that period. Maybe covered in a novel!

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We didnt need to see Padme die! 18 years take place before A New Hope arrives.

The audience could have accepted that she died sometime in that period. Maybe covered in a novel!
But think of how it would've looked for someone watching the saga in episodic order. There'd be three films with her as a prominent character, then two films where she's not even mentioned. Why isn't she part of the Rebel Alliance? Was she on Alderaan? Finally, as the third act of Return of the Jedi approaches, there's a throwaway line establishing that she died when Leia was very young. It wouldn't have worked.

"Have to say, Jimmy - you turned into a real impressive fighter. If I was ol' Mengsk, I'd be runnin' scared from you, too."
"You really mean that, Tychus?"
"Nah. I was just kiddin'."

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It doesn't have to work, not everything is explained. It's e.g. never explained why Yoda and Obi-Wan just decide to go into exile. Why did they do that given how much was at stake? But no off they go without explanation, so Padme dying sometime in the 20 years between episode III and IV doesn't have to be explained either.

"I will not be strong armed by threats against my laundry"

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Than why does the line in ROTJ have to be explained?

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The only explanation left is that Leia sensed her mother's sadness while she was growing inside her. Remember she's able to feel Luke and then Han's death. She can sense this stuff.

I once told a man to go screw himself! Can you even imagine?! - Kilgrave

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She just gave birth to twins that she noe has to raise. Where does she get the balls to die like that?
As long as she was alive, the Sith would be obsessed with finding her. As we see in the next two films, the Empire doesn't mess around when it comes to finding what they're looking for. Her death, however, gives Luke and Leia a chance to remain safely anonymous.

"Have to say, Jimmy - you turned into a real impressive fighter. If I was ol' Mengsk, I'd be runnin' scared from you, too."
"You really mean that, Tychus?"
"Nah. I was just kiddin'."

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Then have her fake her death. And before you say Anakin/Vader would be able to sense her through the Force, well he and Palpatine sure weren't able to use the Force to find Obi-Wan and Yoda for all those years, were they? And they knew those two were alive.

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There are 2 schools of thought :

1 : Padme is a horrible person

2 : George Lucas is a horrible writer

Then of course you'll have stupid defenses from stupid people who like the prequels but they don't matter.

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I guess they could have kept her alive, but they would need to give a valid reason why she would willingly give up her son to Obi-Wan to take to Tatooine.

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I could buy that more than the suggestion that this supposedly strong woman gave up on life despite having two defenseless baby's that needed to be protected.

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It was Lucas trying to be Shakespearean (King Lear dies of a broken heart) I guess.

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Let me put it this way. Debbie Reynolds died a day after her daughter passed away, leaving another daughter and a granddaughter behind. If that's not losing the will to live, you have no real understanding of human affection or compassion.

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Debbie Reynolds was more than 80 years old. Her risk of stroke was high already. Padme was like 30 years old and perfectly healthy. There is a difference.

"I will not be strong armed by threats against my laundry"

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Debbie Renyolds was an 84 year old who had a major stroke not too long ago. The stress of her daughter passing was a direct cause cause . Padme was a 27 year old healthy women. You are told specifically that she had no medical condition and her dying isn't caused by any ailment.

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What REALLY Killed Padme in Revenge of the Sith? Star Wars Explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bXIh7WZuFc

https://www.quora.com/If-Padme-was-still-alive-would-she-have-recognized-Vader-while-wearing-his-armor-as-Anakin/answer/Feifei-Wang-6

Out of all the horrible choices Lucas made for the prequels, the death of Padme irks me the most. Yes, it irks me even more than Jar Jar Binks. With Jar Jar, we all know he's a horrible character, that there's no hope for him. He's there because Lucas thought kids would love a clumsy and funny character who can't talk right.

But Padme is different. The story set her up to be a powerful, strong-willed, resourceful, and resilient career politician. This is made even more clear in Clone Wars. She was very well respected in the Senate and carried out numerous crucial and dangerous missions. I can't accept that such a strong female character literally lost the will to live because her asshole boyfriend turned to the Dark Side and dumped her?! REALLY? Lucas?

Padme wouldn't have died from childbirth (unless in the galaxy far far away we can fly between stars but childbirth is still a battlefield). She had plenty of willpower to live, not only for her newborn children, but to lead the resistance against the empire. She was always a leader; she wouldn't give that up. Anakin's betrayal would only harden her will. She'd fight against him, believing there was still good in Anakin. She wouldn't give up hope.

And I think she would know Vader as Anakin—her emo good-for-nothing whiny Jedi-turned-Sith husband—in a suit.

Think about it. If she’d survived the childbirth (which she should have), she'd probably leave her two children with Organa and Obi Wan, and she would join the rebel force (or whatever resistance they would have had at the time). Neither Vader nor Palpatine deliberately hid the fact that Vader was Anakin Skywalker.

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Yeah, Padme's death never made much sense to me. It seemed as if the only reason she died was because it was in the script. I mean, the droids said she was perfectly healthy, and she had extremely advanced tech to help with the birth, despite being on a remote asteroid station. Padme was also a strong-willed woman, and it would have taken a lot to kill her off. I thought it was extremely bad writing, to be honest. Nobody with an ounce of sense was gonna buy into that, not even kids.

If they truly wanted to make her death realistic, they could have had her bleeding internally while giving birth. That kills birthing moms, even in this day and age of modern medicine. It's dangerous and life-threatening because often the doctors can't locate where the wound is if it's deep inside, and even then, it's difficult to stop. It wouldn't have taken much on Mustafar, particularly when her own husband attempted to Force choke her and caused horrible stress to her body.

But no, Lucas had to be a dumbass with the script.


I did find the fan theory interesting. People have been suggesting that Palpatine (Darth Sidious) used Anakin's mental and emotional connection to Padme to drain her life force from her to sustain his new apprentice and help him to heal instead. That's actually how Sith can heal using the Dark Side. They drain life from others in order to save someone they want to live. The Sith that was doing the healing wouldn't care about the people who got hurt, so long as the person they were healing continued to live.

The trouble is, there is no evidence of this in the film, nor did they make it really obvious. Heck, many people don't even know that the Force can be used to heal, whether using the Dark or the Light Side! It only comes up in stuff like the books or "Star Wars the Old Republic."

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