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Stu before the events of the movie


I was watching it last night, and thought of something. One of those things where it’s always kind of bugged me at the back of my mind, but last night was the first time the thought was formed enough (wow I sound duhm).

Anyway, it’s about Stu, semi-convoluted. In the fountain scene, it’s mentioned that Stu used to date Casey, and then there’s debate as to whether Casey dumped Stu for Steve, or Stu dumped Casey for Tatum. Wondering which one is true.

Basically, wondering if Casey’s death was reactionary, or planned waaay in advance.

Now, this is all speculation on my part, but I feel worth thinking about for a minute.

Essentially, if Stu dumped Casey: Lends to reason Casey’s death was planned far in advance. Like, maybe he and Billy knew how they wanted the first murder to go, ie, one of their female classmates, who lives in the countryside, and isn’t Sidney. And that Stu could date for a bit. All that criteria, there may have been a limited pool to select from. And maybe they wanted one (Stu, since Billy was with Sidney) to date their victim in advance, for purposes of learning the layout of the house. Once that was done, then, as part of the plan, Stu dumped Casey and then got with Tatum to further cement their friend group, and get closer to Sidney.

The simpler narrative of Casey dumping him and him wanting revenge is easier and also makes sense of course, just another angle I thought of that I think has some weight to it.

Two other smaller items about the opening I realized:

1: How did they catch Steve? Can only assume they did something to disable his car on the way to her house, like something in the road to blow out his tires, then grabbed him. But then they’d have to do something with the car, and that’s a big thing in a small amount of time. Unless they were costume-free by the roadside, pretending to have car troubles, and Steve stopped, and figured they were kids he knew from school and he’d be fine.

2: A point of irony. One of the questions they ask Casey is who is the killer in Friday the 13th. In her moment of terror, she jumps to the more recognizable Jason, when it was in fact Mrs. Voorhees. I always feel like this was a trick, as they knew she’d think fast and jump to the wrong conclusion. Similarly, Casey is often-referred to as the first victim in the movie. Maybe the most memorable, certainly the first memorable, but Steve was the first, she was the second. I’m not counting Maureen or any other pre-series off-screen deaths.


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"The simpler narrative of Casey dumping him and him wanting revenge is easier and also makes sense of course, just another angle I thought of that I think has some weight to it."

Personally, I think that's it.

"1: How did they catch Steve?"

This is also something I wondered last time I watched it. It's possible they overpowered him when he walked over to Casey's door. It's also possible they caught him much earlier. He did look beaten up, so the latter does seem more likely. I don't think they would have to do anything to his car. Maybe they had met up with him or they knew where he was before going to Casey.

"I always feel like this was a trick, as they knew she’d think fast and jump to the wrong conclusion."

Yes, I also believe they deliberatly chose that question, hoping she would make a mistake.

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My one issue with that is they'd almost have to do something with his car. Because her house being out in the boonies, it's likely (not necessarily so, but likely), that Steve and her parents used the same general route to get to the house. His car would need to be out of sight or her parents might've seen it and wondered.

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Why? It's not like she was hiding her boyfriend from her parents. She was having a movie night with him.

Even so, it's possible they beat him up and bounded him earlier, transported him to Casey's house and hid the car in the bushes like they did with the car of Sidney's father.

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I meant along the route, they'd wonder "Why is our daughter's boyfriend's car abandoned on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere?" That kinda thing.

Again, I know I'm overthinking it, just can't help it ;)

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Well, I don't think they would do that. If he went by car, they would probably have transported him with it to Casey's house or hidden it. With "doing something with his car" I meant sabotaging it . I don't think that would've been necessary.

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I believe she dumped him, but they worked it into their plan to kill her and set off the whole sequence of events a year later leading up to Maureen's anniversary. But that's the good thing about this movie, there's so many different theories about things and there's really no right or wrong answer, but based on what we're given on the screen we can piece things together.

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I like your perspective :) That's pretty much how I felt about the finale of LOST, and so many just can't accept that view

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