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Why this 'great' film has a bad rep.


The island of dr. moreau (1996) version gets so much negitive attention is everyone making this film seemed not to be very happy.David Thewlis broke his leg. Val Kilmer and John Frankenheimer fought the entire time.David Thewlis neber even saw the film.

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Good point!!

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gotta say i like it too. i rented it years ago out of curiosity after all the stories about the production, but i got through barely 15 minutes before giving up. i was enjoying it, but i couldn't cope with the pan'n'scan, macrovision-heavy presentation.

picked up the dvd recently for like $5. looking forward to rekindling my enjoyment, and to catching another john frankenheimer movie. it's nowhere near a classic, but it's good solid entertainment, and certainly isn't crap. even frankenheimer has done worse, imho.

agree about the peer pressure thing, though. if everyone says it's crap, it must be crap. yeah right...

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Because It was so usnlike the book that it made me sick. I don't think the peopole whom made this movie read the book very carfully. First there were no women in the book Doctor M did not have a daughter. Second there were no fire arms in the book at least the mutants had no access to fire arms in the book.

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this is true, but out of the three times they have made the book a movie i think this is there best try.

anyway man, its hollywood of course the added women and guns!!

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More than half a century passed between the writing of the story and the making of the 3rd film. To gripe over those 2 minor differences seems weak at best. First off, it's Hollywood. There is going to be a female lead whether one existed in the source material or not, get over it. Firearms present in the film did not ruin it by themselves, unless you can explain to me coherently.

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please try to explain to me again, because i dont understand your ponit, maybe im stupid.

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Well, there were firearms in the book. Revolvers. Moreau, Montgomery, and Prendick all carried revolvers at one time (Prendick even had two after his confrontation with Moreau and Montgomery on the beach). But you're right, the Beast Men never gained access to them. And Moreau didn't have a daughter (at least not mentioned). There were female creatures, of course, but no human females.

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>> David Thewlis never even saw the film.

Really??

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Horrible movie, and I say that as someone who is always eager to say how fun a bad movie is, and who loves to rant about enjoyable movies being worth more than "great cinema"!

This movie is uniquely... toxic! I've never seen another film where I can feel the bad vibes rolling off of the screen, not like this. You can feel Brando sinking into his final madness and Thewlis's desperation to be somewhere else, and Kilmer's ego telling him that nothing can touch him not even this, and so on. There are urban legends about this movie being accursed, and I can see why.

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C'mon, it's not that bad. Even the critical Gene Siskel gave it a positive review, as observed here (jump to the 19:25 mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7SZMzRds0

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Is SO that bad!

There's a reason that this is the one 90s film that's rumored to be accursed. It's because tge misery is so plain on screen, and it's not misery the actors are faking. These are actors trying to cover real misery with fake suspense.

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Marlon Brando & his Mini-Me seemed to have a good time.

The making-of documentary is more entertaining than the movie, Lost Soul: The Doomed Journey of Richard Stanley's Island of Dr. Moreau. Check it out if you haven't seen it:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3966544/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_5_tt_8_nm_0_q_lost%2520souls%2520the%2520making%2520of%2520the%2520island%2520o



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At that point in his life, Brando was both crazy and evil.

He probably enjoyed being in an accursed production.

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Evil? Nah, his daughter Cheyenne had just committed suicide, so he was grieving and covering it up with his eccentricities on set.

As far as crazy goes, Brando well knew the madness of the movie biz by that point and rolled with it rather than against it, which explains why he had fun with the role of Dr. Moreau while many of the others were tense and unhappy. He also knew the weight he held to sway a production and used it (no pun intended). "Apocalypse Now" is a good example and was a similar role (questionable outcast in the jungle). It worked since he's one of the highlights of the flick.

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