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Was what Keyser Soze did all for nothing?


I've watched this movie at least four or five times and from what I get of it is that Keyser Soze (Kevin Spacey) set this all up to kill that one man on the boat who was capable of identifying him, but at the end the cop discovers Verbal is Soze, so they now have all his fingerprints, mugshots and history to identify him. Now, law enforcement has more on Soze than they would've had had Soze just let the guy on the boat go through with ratting him out. Why would Soze even involve himself personally with the other four guys and their attack on the boat.

Maybe I'm missing something, but Soze doesn't come off as the brilliant criminal mastermind as he's portrayed to be. Is this just a very flawed movie that falls apart when you think too deep about it.

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It wasn't just that Marquez could identify him, he had intimate knowledge of his business. That's the only reason he was so useful to authorities, because up till then it wasn't even clear whether Soze was just a myth or not.

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I thought the point was that Soze lied about everything. That the whole movie was just a story made up by him. So really the cop doesn't even know what really happened and has nothing to go on. He just realized everything he said was a lie and it was too late to do anything about it.

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Yes, but...

It's been a while since I have seen the movie, so I may be a little off.

Everything that Kevin Spacey says is a lies but some scenes in the movie outside of his story. Those scenes are the truth. There really was a hit to kill Marquez and all of the usual suspects were involved, The story of why and how they are there is what we don't know. Like was Fenster really in California.

You are correct when you say " So really the cop doesn't even know what really happened and has nothing to go on. He just realized everything he said was a lie and it was too late to do anything about it."

That's my interpretation anyway.

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