most RETARDED character in movie history

I still think his name should have been Dan Obvious. So then everytime he gave us one of his little psychic gems, Michael Madsen could have looked right at him and said "Thank you, Mr. Obvious".

Believe me, nothing is trivial. - Eric Draven, The Crow

It was certainly obvious that Xavier Fitch felt bad after trying to kill Sil, because he shed a tear. He told Dan Smithson he didn’t know if he felt bad, but Dan guessed that and he knew.

Around the beginning while he was at that psychiatrist‘s office, Dan knew that someone was at the door before they knocked and that it was for him.

Dan knew Sil was frightened when she murdered that train conductor. He knew that Sil killed whenever she felt threatened and knew that she had no remorse about it whatsoever. People like Dan, psychics, empaths or whatever you want to call them, can sense other people’s emotions, something us normal people who don’t have psychic powers can’t do, and when I say normal, I do not mean that in an offensive way at all.

When Laura Baker’s camera went out and she and Preston Lennox went to replace it, Dan definitely felt that something was wrong, and his fear was definitely confirmed when he saw that the creature they were experimenting with was growing rapidly.

Dan instantly knew right then that it was that guy Robbie who left with Sil when the clubber told him so, and he turned out to be completely right. Would anybody else be able to guess that?

Dan knew that Robbie might have upset Sil; Robbie was totally insistent that she not go anywhere and stay with him. As I've said earlier, a psychic person like Dan could sense emotions.

Yes, Dan knew that Sil walked, which I’m sure any person would probably be able to guess, but he knew which direction she walked. Dan also completely sensed something while he was at the club and then went outside, and that’s when he ran into Sil who then faked her own death. And Dan knew something wasn’t right after Sil faked her death, but then, even Press had a feeling, so I guess that’s reasonable. People do get those gut feelings.

Dan knew Laura and Press liked each other, and yes, anyone would guess that. And he knew that Laura wanted Press to follow her back into her room, but I guess that one was a no-brainer, too.

Dan also knew that it was Sil having sex with Stephen Arden, without ever actually having seen her after she supposedly died.

What I want to know is why Dan lost his psychic powers once the team got into the sewer. It was an extremely serious situation. Dan couldn’t have been confused and sensed more than one presence, because Sil hadn’t yet gave birth.

Also, how could Dan not have known that little baby boy was Sil’s offspring? Rather than try to sweet-talk the boy, Dan could have torched him right there. He also could have helped Laura when she got stuck near that oil that was then flaming when the fire struck it. And I could have sworn I thought I saw two aliens before Sil got torched. I wonder which one of them was the real Sil and which one was her offspring. And Dan also definitely seems to have visions just like Sil.

If anybody's "retarded", I think it would be that science team. Sil seemed to always be way ahead of the team while they hung around the same places. At times, it seemed like they were totally slow when Sil was right there in front of them, and I’m referring to when the crew went to the scene of the accident, and Sil wasn‘t that far away from them when she was at that hospital. And she was also right in front of them when she hid behind that wooden fence after murdering that guy who checked her into the hospital (his name was John Carey, I believe). And Dan and Press couldn’t even see her? They couldn’t at least see her eye through that small hole?

The team also thought Sil might have went back to the club, when she wouldn't be that dumb. And after the accident where Sil got that poor woman killed, the cars sped right past her and did not notice her. And I know that woman’s body might have been burned and completely charred, but I’m sure the team could have still been able to make out the body in the passenger seat and how it was tied up. If the crew thought that woman really was Sil, then how could Sil try to escape and tear her finger off in the doorway if she was supposedly tied up in the passenger seat?

And I wonder how that crew could try and capture Sil after drinking all that Long Island Iced Tea.

Around the beginning of the movie when Sil escaped, it might have been a very good idea for Fitch and his people to stop the trains and to just say that Sil was some kind of fugitive trying to escape. Press and Laura could have said the same thing when they got to the answering machine of that John Carey fellow. And speaking of which, why was it night time when they finally got all of John Carey's information from his credit card? Did it really take them that long? That science team seemed to be goofing around. They were dealing with a creature who might destroy the entire human race for goodness sake.

That science team could have been more careful with that experiment. Sil grew and developed waaay too fast. And those guards chasing her towards the beginning of the movie were being very dumb as well, the guys wearing those dark military-looking outfits and the cadaver dogs. They were chasing her at first and were later seen walking in another shot. Did they really think that the helicopters and flames they shot were going to do the job and catch up to Sil?

I thought Sil was pretty dumb, too. She didn’t have to follow the science team back to the hotel room, but I knew she was after Press. And after she faked her own death, she could have been long gone as someone on these message boards had pointed out. She kept following the crew and hanging around them.

I thought Laura Baker was pretty dumb when she said that the team ought to make that creature with just its own DNA. Um, hello? They'd deal with the same problem again just as they did with Sil.

Forest Whitaker is not a dumb guy, it’s his character Dan Smithson whom you think is dumb.

he is the only reason i cannot watch the movie. loved the movie but hated his character. was such a waste and beyond pointless.

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Hey Laser Lips Yo Momma Was A Snow Blower - Johnny 5

i feel its a tossup between him & jar jar

Shall we find something to kill to cheer ourselves up?-hk-47

It's always the problem with "empaths" in movies - like Deanna Troi in the new-gen Star Trek - they always end up saying obvious and pointless things.

"I sense that you're upset." Hah!!



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

His characther was kind of odd. I dont think he shouldve been in the film, his role was not really neeeded.

"Saints Have A Past And Sinners Have A Future, The Problem Is I Got Both A Past And A Future"

This movie is practically a masterpiece compared to the second one.

I know this thread is 4 years old, but I just had to add that I completely agree with the original poster. Forrest Whitaker's "Empath" character was literally the stupidest character I've ever seen in a movie, and every single thing he said was just nothing but Captain Obvious. "Something bad happened here!" Seriously?!? What gave it away?!?! The giant hatched chrysalis still attached to the wall and the dead train employee on the floor beneath it with flies buzzing around and a bad stench in the air causing people to cover their mouths/noses??? Thank you, Captain Obvious! You really earned that paycheck the government is paying you for tagging along on this top secret mission! "She didn't like being locked up." Really?? I wonder how he knew!

The character was *the* reason I couldn't even keep watching the movie. I got about 15 minutes in, and I just couldn't do it anymore and shut the movie off. I wasn't expecting a top notch A-level movie, I knew it was a B movie, and to just roll with it and have fun with it, but seriously, that character was just so dumb I couldn't even pretend to dumb myself down to that level just to tolerate it. So so so so dumb. If they'd scrapped that character completely, or at least, changed him to be telepathic so that he could produce insights that nobody else could possibly know, THEN maybe the movie could have been better.