Better Than The Original


OK, first of all, I'm American. Second of all, most of my favorite films are international. Third, I love subtitles so much, that I even turn them on when watching English language films (no, I'm not hard of hearing). Fourth, I've seen the original La Femme Nikita, the American remake Point Of No Return, the Chinese remake called Black Cat, and the TV series which originally aired on the USA network in the states.

Keeping the above in mind, I have to say that I enjoyed Point Of No Return more than I did La Femme Nikita, mainly due to the casting differences and believability of the narrative.

For one, I preferred Bridget Fonda's vulnerability and existentialist angst to Anne Parillaud's cynicism and primal rage. Say what you will about the movie overall, but for me, Fonda was the main key to my enjoying and preferring it to the original. Parillaud is too cold and distant for my sensibilities, whereas Fonda sets the stage for the characterization that would imbue the TV series with some humanity. In the original, I simply didn't care whether any of the people in it lived or died. I was wholly indifferent. In the remake, I got a better sense that at least some of the characters might be human beings and not robots.

I also felt that for a movie about ruthless spies and assassins, Americans are more believable in those roles than are the French. The French, while having a history of extreme brutality that really shown bright during the Algerian War, just do not scare me in the same way that my fellow American countrymen do. The Germans kicked their butts, the Vietnamese kicked their butts, the Algerians did a whole lot of damage, etc., and so my ability to see a French film of this type is somewhat compromised. Don't get me wrong, the French can be ruthless Fascists, as we all know, but for a modern film, I almost feel that the plot works better when set someplace else. You have to believe in a certain kind of lawful lawlessness in order to lose yourself in this kind of film, and the French setting just never did it for me in that regard. Change the setting to America, and I fully believe what is happening.

Also, while it's trendy to love Jean Reno, especially because of all the similar roles he's played, I still think that Harvey Keitel is a much more menacing cleaner. I really believe that Harvey will kill anyone and everyone in the room, including children and babies, in order to make sure that there is no evidence. Jean is a much less menacing figure. There's too much humanity in Jean's eyes, whereas Harvey is a crazy American who doesn't believe in anything but money and following orders.

In addition, I had a greater appreciation for Gabriel Byrne's masculine energy, which felt more substantive than Tcheky Karyo's somewhat tired performance, looking throughout the film as if he was a refugee from the movie Insomnia. I really believed that Byrne and Fonda might possibly "get it on," but I also believed there was a genuine platonic affection between the two as well, despite the ruthless nature of the business.

So, despite the fact that I normally prefer "foreign" films, and believe that most renakes are crap, I do believe there are times, rare though they may be, when American or other remakes can actually improve upon the original. "The Happiness of the Katakuris" vs "The Quiet Family" or "The Ring" vs. "Ringu" are just two small examples of where I felt a remake outdid, improved upon, or added something new to the original. I feel that Point Of No Return stands on it's own and compares quite favorably to La Femme Nikita.

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I'm from Norway and I haven't seen "Nikita", but I'm planning to because I absolutely loved this movie "Point of no return". I'm shocked by the low rating of this movie, because I think it's just as good as Léon. I especially like Bridget Fonda and gave it 10/10.

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I totally agree!

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I could not disagree more. This movie just vampirized the original, with much less depth, class, texture and originality. And yes, the character as played by Bridget Fonda wouldn't even last in the streets.

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Right on! I don't know why everyone is saying that Bridget Fonda is "from the streets." Her grandfather is Henry Fonda, and for the love of Pete, she didn't inherit any of his talent. Anne Parillaud would win in an impromptu chick fight on even her worst day. She wouldn't stand a chance.

Also, the music from the original is by Eric Serra, which is incedentally a) ripped off by the filmakers in Point of No Return, and b) lacking in the dubbed version. Watch it with subtitles. Better yet, learn French and watch it in V.O. Dubbed versions suck anyways, but a Besson movie without Eric Serra (or Besson, for that matter), just seems wrong. I felt dirty just watching this movie. I had to shower just to get the nastiness off. Just thinking about this almost 15 years later makes be want to barf.

Also, I noticed that many of the shots in the movie are completely ripped off from the original. May I point out the dive down the laundry shoot? Why watch it when the original looks and sounds better? BOO!

One last note, the film is titled "Nikita." Simple and elegant, like the black dress.

Dites non aux imposteurs! Vive la vraie Nikita!

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I thought Fonda was excellent -I actually cared what happened to her character Also enjoyed Byrne and Bancroft I particular .Underated film in my opinion

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I haven't seen Nikita entirely, but I prefer the remake so far when it comes to character development and great acting on Bridget Fonda's part.

Nikita was more style over substance, the camera angles and cinematography are way better than the remake in comparison. And I like Beeson's style, but his other films had more substance. The Fonda version to me had more character development, in that version she was a caged animal how had to finally be tamed by force over a peroid of 6 months. In Nikita, it really disappointed me that the same character seemingly decided to give in after (what seems like) a few minutes. She was also kinda flat compared to Fonda. The remake is otherwise the same thing but improved certain things like that.

In fact, the only flawed thing about the remake is the action. The action is WAY better in Nikita. Not to say Nikita was bad though, I give both an 8/10. One is more style and the other is more substance, both overall are entertaining.

Stuff like this reminds me of "Movie Poop Shoot.com" from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

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@ Original Poster... you said, "Also, while it's trendy to love Jean Reno, especially because of all the similar roles he's played, I still think that Harvey Keitel is a much more menacing cleaner. I really believe that Harvey will kill anyone and everyone in the room, including children and babies, in order to make sure that there is no evidence. Jean is a much less menacing figure. There's too much humanity in Jean's eyes, whereas Harvey is a crazy American who doesn't believe in anything but money and following orders."

i think overall i have to agree with you here even though i think Reno was great to, as he reminded me of his "Leon" role in "The Professional" (which is one of my very best movies i might add ;) ) but i think your right though as Keitel did seem cold as ice.

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but anyways about the 2 movies (i seen the original (La Femme Nikita (1990)) a day or so ago) and i just finished watching the remake (Point Of No Return (1993)) just a few minutes ago for the first time. overall i prefer the original more but it's fairly close as i feel that this movie (point of no return) is underrated a little bit cause i think it's definitely better than it's 5.x/10 rating for sure.

bottom line =...
-La Femme Nikita (1990) = 8/10 (main character wise, i think Anne Parillaud was more believable than Bridget Fonda was)
-Point Of No Return (1993) = 7/10 (not to far behind the original overall and in ways it's better (like more explanation of stuff etc) but in ways it's worse (Fonda was not as good as Anne Parillaud overall) than the original)

p.s. im a american if that matters to anyone.

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I think this is slightly better than the original and no, I am neither crazy nor on drugs. Bessons film is by far superior concerning the directing, but I didn't really like Nikita. It was really strange when she sometimes behaved like she was retarded, for example where she yells out "Gondoliere" in the hotel room in Venice. Also she was two characters, which was very confusing. There was one Nikita, who could kill, but in my opinion could never have a serious relationship that lasted this long. And I could not really picture the other Nikita killing a cop in cold blood for no reason.

So in my opinion the one thing that's better in the remake is the main character and it is less art and more entertainment. So for me both films are good, but the character of Nikita just didn't work for me.

PS: I wouldn't be so fast with the judging based on opinion. For example, there are lots of people who say Peter Jacksons King Kong is a great film, others surely hate it and prefer one of the older ones. Let other people have their opinion too.

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Yah, but how about the TV series!

It's been many years since I saw any episodes but from what I remember, I am struck by two things - first, total lack of sense of humour, Nikita especially was a total robot; and second, having only now seen PONR (pretty unimaginitive title, isn't it) and never having seen LFN (or just Nikita) it would seem that the TV series really raped the whole concept. But I suppose that if you want to keep recycling the same plot points you have to sterilize it a bit or you'd have a "daytime drama".

Incidentally, the "plot synopsis" for this title keeps referring to "the government". I don't recall there being any inference or implication that "the government" was the moving force behind the whole scheme - apart from the part where our heroine has been sprung from jail, but that's the kind of plot point that has been glossed over enough times in the movies that it wouldn't surprise me if they did it here as well. Sure, the killing of Fahd Bahktiar (Richard Romanus' character) was all about mumble mumble nuclear secrets mumble mumble but, once again - doesn't have to be government for that. To me it's more sinister and mysterious if there is some sort of external "agency" involved...

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I liked them both. And for me even though the storyline is completely the same they are seperate movies that should be evaluated seperately. Each one had its strengths.

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