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Something I still don't understand


Why was the Terminator driving and Sarah fighting off the T-1000? They very easily could have switched places. Also why didn't Sarah put on a bullet proof vest?

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Simply because people in movies sometimes make bad decisions, nothing more.

If you pay attention, most movies and their conflicts are based around humans making bad choices.

You could ask this of every movie:
Why didn't Luke just stay home and rebuild?
Why didn't Indiana Jones just stay teaching?
On and on and on

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It's not exactly making bad decisions. The terminator was the only one capable of stealing the swat van, once they escaped the Terminator wanted to gain as much distance from there as possible. It's not like they had time to stop and switch spots. The T-1000 was on them, at that point why stop the van and be a sitting duck for the T-1000. They didn't exactly have the time on their side with everything going on.

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They can switch spots while driving, its been done before. Also why not just close the door? The door is bullet proof.

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You're really reaching for straws with this topic. Switching spots in a swat van would require them to stop the van otherwise it's more dangerous and they could easily lose control of it. They could close the door but then what? Wait for the T-1000 to just keep shooting the vehicle until it eventually would be damaged far too much to drive, or just slam the brakes and wait for it to crash into the vehicle? It's simply an action scene and I commented on this already; slamming the brakes and close the door would be a pretty boring scene, any movie throws some logic out the window for the sake of entertaining the audience. So trying to nitpick this is pretty pointless and no a swat van door is not fully bullet proof. Depends on the rounds maybe a .22 or 9mm wouldn't penetrate much but any other caliber could.

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Then why did they literally switch spots 5 minutes later in the truck??? Why were Kyle and Sarah able to trade places in the first movie? No one is reaching for straws other than yourself, numb nuts and no matter how “dangerous” it may or may not have been, nothing was more dangerous than not closing the door therefore allowing the T-1000 to shoot Sarah and potentially John (hell if he hadn’t been under the bullet proof vests he would have died right there)

Closing the door would have at least prevented the T-1000 from shooting Sarah which by the way SLOWED THEM DOWN LATER IN THE MOVIE!!!! Not to mention that John (who was the actual target of the T-1000 was in the fucking van)

Also since you bring this up I’ll entertain it: The T-1000 was firing at them with a Heckler and Koch MP5K which is indeed a 9mm, so yes the door would have stopped the bullets.

Are you trolling me or are you really that stupid?

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Fleeing is the most important part, so they Terminator does it. They can't kill the T1000, so it wouldn't have mattered if the T800 was the one shooting. HE got the most important job in that equation.

She didn't want John to die. Sarah was of the belief even one vest less would put John in Danger.

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Sarah could have easily driven the van, it was firmly established in the franchise that trading places only takes a few seconds. Closing the door also would have only taken a few seconds. By not doing either they were literally putting John in more danger.

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Why WOULD Sarah drive the van? Why her over the terminator?

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Because if the Terminator is shooting at the T-1000 then it doesn't matter if he gets hit because he's protected by a hyper allow combat chest. Do you even understand this movie? Do you even know what a terminator is?

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What's it matter who is shooting? Weapons - that they had - can't kill it.

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It matters because the T-800 doesn’t have to worry about being shot, Sarah does.

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You didn't answer the question. I said what does it matter who is shooting? No matter what, those weapons can't kill a T1000.

The priority is fleeing, which is why the T800 is driving.

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That’s why I also suggested closing the door which is bullet proof. But if someone is going to shoot (maybe they were hoping they could disable the chopper and cause it to crash), it makes zero sense to have Sarah shoot while the T-800 is driving and is safe from gunfire. The T-800 can get shot, Sarah cannot.

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Sarah's safety isn't a priority, John's is. The primary objective is to escape. How is this this hard for you?

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Sarah was defending John, if she is shot that inhibits her ability to defend John. If the T-800 is shot then he is still able to defend John. How is this this hard for you?

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No if, she WAS shot. Yet John lived. Weird. It's almost as if who's shooting the weapons that can't kill the T1000 don't matter.

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Then they should have just closed the door you moron.

Her being shot made it harder to defend John and at that moment in the film they didn’t know if John was going to live. If your objective is to protect someone then put the character who can be shot and not go into excruciating pain in the line of fire, not the person who will go into excruciating pain. I’ll ask you the same thing I asked Castor Troy: Are you trolling me or are you really this stupid?

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Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is trolling. That's what it is...

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No, everyone who argues nonsense is probably trolling. That's what it is....

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