No way Ninny could be Idgie


Think about it, Ninny's too nice, too soft spoken, could you EVER see Idgie mellowing out and becoming nice like her?

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They aren't the same person.

In the book it's clear that Idgie and Ninny are two different people, but the book is told by an omniscient third person narrator, who can tell about the exchanges between Ruth and Idige in detail.

It's a difficult form to adapt to the movie since they made it seem like Ninny was telling the stories about Idgie and Ruth, which doesn't seem possible since Ninny wasn't present for those events.

Even so, I don't see Idgie being the kind of person to tell intimate stories about her relationships to anyone or even befriending Evelyn so easily. Idgie is a private person. The relationship between her and Ruth is exceptional not only for what they went through, but because Ruth was able to reach a person like Idgie.

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I've heard that in the book that is a definite fact. But the movie left out certain facts so the viewers can use their imaginations and come to their own conclusions. I think they are one and the same.

At the end, the smile on Jessica Tandy's face has too much mischief in it! She is insinuating she is Idgie. Anyway, that is what I believe. As she told the story is when she would make things up.

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Even without those details, I don't think the movie version of Ninny and Idgie are the same person. Their personalities are too different. Idgie was not a warm, sensitive person like Ninny is and she wouldn't consent to being sent to a home. Or decorate her room with roses and pictures.

And could you see Ninny being able to get that jar of honey in her condition?

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This is true...and wow! I never thought of that but NO, I can't see Ninny getting that jar of honey!!!!! You just convinced me! Thanks!

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Ninny is 82 and 83 in the movie. The purple hair shows that she is indeed sprightly and alive like Idgie.

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She was Idgie's sister-in-law. I used to think she was Idgie, too, with the timing of the honey jar and note appearing at the end. And the way she points them out to Evelyn and smiles real big. I thought she was speaking about herself in third person, talking about the spirit of who she used to be showing herself every now and again. But she drops some clues that would make it just weird for her to be Idgie. She mentions having a crush on Buddy, who would be her brother if she were Idgie. She was practically adopted by the Threadgoodes, so she was probably there in town for most of the story. And she married Cleo, the baby of the family. He's never mentioned by name by any other person in the movie, but he's credited. Probably one of the children at the wedding in the beginning. The rest of the story (Frank Bennett, Idgie/Ruth relationship) was witnessed by Sipsey, who told her baby sister, Mrs. Otis, who told Ninny. But if Ninny's too old to get that honey, then Idgie must be, too!

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Yes, thank you! I never realized that Cleo is credited and also, what clinched it for me was the ending: when Ninny smiles at Evelyn with that " yes, I am Idgie" smile and Evelyn smiles right back! But ya, no way they could get that honey!


Wait! Wait! Where are you going? I was gonna make Espresso!

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Of course she still got the honey! She's a bee charmer

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Ninny and Idgie are the same person in the movie. They changed it for dramatic purposes. In the film it works very well!

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I've always thought this, too. We all know that in the book they are two different people but the movie takes creative license and leads us to think, in the end, that she is really Idgie. Honestly, I don't know why this is still debated after all these years.

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She introduces herself as Mrs. Cleo Threadgood in the movie. Yes they did leave the ending up to interpretation, but I don't really see how they would get around having her be Idgie when Ninny did marry Idgie's brother. So, that's not really explained away by a smile at the end.

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Maybe you're a youngin. i have seen many a feisty young people and even puppies, grow to be a lot more reserved. You can only have that youthful spunk for so long.

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Its a very sweet ending of a film and does give you the impression they are one in the same, I almost wish it was, but it isnt. If you read the book they are clearly 2 different people. Even in the film Ninny states quite clearly that she was married to Idgies brother Cleo not to mention had a huge crush on Buddy which would be weird considering that was Idgies other brother.

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The movies intent is that they're the same person. You think some other 80 year old woman just happened to come by and leave honey for Ruth in a dead town the same day Tabdy shows up? No

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So in the book when evelyn goes to see ninny's grave she sees the flowers and the note on ruth's grave. So according to you it is also a lot of coincidence that idgie was also there, right?

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I still like to think Ninny is Idgie as a southern gentile lady with all those memories about Ruth, Sipsie and Buddy. If she wasn't Idgie she knew an awful lot about everything.

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I don't understand why people keep saying they are the same person when it's impossible. In the beginning Niny clearly says she had a crush on buddy which would be incest if she was pidgey. And she said who she married. But to someone else's point the age thing doesn't make sense. Ninny is old yet had to be a kid when buddy was alive to have had a crush on him. And if Idgey is still alive at the end she must be super old.

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Thing is, kids tend to have crushes on people family or not. They aren't looking at it the same way an adult would so just because she had something of a hero worship on her older brother (if that were the case) that doesn't mean anything incestuous, it's just hero worship. The fact that she was devastated with his death shows her devotion and you can see she adores her brother at the wedding. And the only way it could be bad is if he felt that way about her. Now that would be different, but she's just a kid so I don't see the problem.

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No - she ain't. But that wasn't clear to me the 1st few times I watched the film. It's easier to understand in the book which actually has Idgie in the closing scene.

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"Ninny" was most definitely Idgie. Look at her room at the nursing home. She had a framed photo of Ruth, along with what looked like decoupage on the walls of bees, flowers, etc. Why would she have a framed photo of Ruth? Also, Ninny is the only one who could've put that jar of honey at Ruth's grave. She was totally in love with Ruth. At the end of the movie, Evelyn winks at Ninny in an all-knowing look. She KNEW Ninny was Idgie.

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idgie is not Ninny. kathy bates doesn't wink her eye, she just makes a gesture with her gaze as if to say she has been around here? If it were the same people, where are the photos of her husband and her son and their grave? The director in the comment of the dvd leaves him to interpret as we would like because this is what we are doing in the forum what he wanted. But I think I remember that both he and the cast confirmed that they were not the same person. I have read the final script that the director wrote and they are not the same person. And Jessica Tandy's smile is the one she always has in her movies. She has no other smile

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Ninny had pictures of Ruth, bees, etc all over her room: She was Idgie!

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I've never read the book, but have seen the movie over a dozen times through the years.
As the way the MOVIE portrays it, I believe Ninny is Idgie. I think a movie can exist along with a book, in the same universe, yet have artistic liberties taken.
As presented in the movie, Ninny knows too much to just be a 3rd party reflecting on what was presumably told to her or only sporadically being present for such incidents.
But what solidifies it (no pun intended actually!), is the bee/honey thing. Getting that honey from the swarms of bees is something very rarely done. To have 2 people in the same family being able to do it seems almost impossible. It would have to take someone special to do that (especially, for someone who didn't do it professionally for a living). Idgie got the honey earlier in the movie and put it in a jar, just like is shown at the end. And we see Ninny's mischevious smile (along with Evelyn's reaction, seemingly to also now know the truth). Idgie somehow did it again (though probably with much fewer bees present this time, or maybe even store or farmer-bought).

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