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Not as good as the original 1958 version, here's why...


This 1986 rendition has a lot of devotees (presumably because of director/writer David Cronenberg), but I found it less effective compared to the 1958 version with Vincent Price. Despite the gory state-of-the-art effects (for the mid-80s, that is), it's just not as compelling or horrifying (especially that final scene in the original). The one-dimensional locations are also a turn-off: Excluding the great bar scene, the whole movie takes place in a grungy lab or, occasionally, a swank office building.

Interestingly, the cast trilogy is exceptionally tall. While Goldblum (6'4½") is serviceable and gives it his all, he's not leading man material, although he's fine in secondary roles. And I was never big on Davis, but she's a'right I guess. At least the two absolutely look & act like they were meant for each other.

In its favor, the movie is a metaphor for how aging & disease slowly destroys the body. But it's a flawed parallel: In real life a couple & their peers age together and so they're all simultaneously turning into "monsters" in comparison to their youthful selves.

Despite the sickening visuals, it's heartbreaking and tragic, which you might not expect in a sci-fi flick about a guy who morphs into a fly. It thankfully avoids the rut of camp and melodrama.

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The biggest edge the 1986 version has is that it is a much more realistic depiction of how a mixture of man and fly would occur, with DNA molecular reorganisation via the telepods: the man would appear unaffected once the merger had taken place, but the fly DNA would gradually take over.

In the original version, it doesn't work because the filmmakers didn't know how such technology would work, and so you have the silliness of absolutely discrete body parts, like for the head and arm swapping each other. It might work for audiences of the time, but for those brought up on Star Trek's transporter, it just doesn't fly, no matter how horrifying the sight of a human-headed fly caught in a spiderweb is, or the tragedy of the fly-headed scientist urging someone to squash him to oblivion in a hydraulic press.

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I'm able to look past your criticism of the 1958 version on the the grounds that it's science-fiction.

But it's a good point, thanks.

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Actually these boards are all about opinions on movies & the people who make them. Aduh.

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Personally i was never a fan of the original as i think this movie improved on the original

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I watched this film a few years ago and I was kinda shocked that it looked and felt like an 80s tv movie. I guess I expected something that at least looked more theatrical. Big budget.

I thought Goldblum and Davis were both very good and the concept, of course, is horrifying and fascinating. The splicing together the DNA from the man and the fly is an interesting premise and there are some shocking effects as his body transforms.

But, to me, nothing in the remake is as viscerally shocking as the image of a giant fly head on the body of a man. And the fly with the funny white head ending up in the web of a spider is the stuff of nightmares with that voice screaming for help.

So, yes, I agree. The 58 version is better.

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Yeah, it's strange that -- as hideous and gory as parts of this more modern reimagining are -- nothing in it tops the visceral shock of those two elements in the 1958 original.

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The remake is a better s/f movie. The original is a better movie. Really, which one is really a classic? And fifty+ years after it was made and with weak science.

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In real life a couple & their peers age together

Unless you’re talking about disease…

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Except that disease tends to hit people when they're older.

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Which disease are you talkin’ bout boy? You ever had AIDS?

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What part of "tends to" don't you understand? Check the stats: The older you are the more prone to disease.

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Check the stats: which age group tends to be affected by HIV/AIDS more?

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Younger people who unwisely engage in risky sexual acts with multiple partners.

I was speaking of disease in general, not one particular disease.

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Back in the 80s people didn’t know as much about HIV

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