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Which villain did you hate more?


Thorne or Mick? I have to pick Thorne. Not only was Thorne a jerk when he was younger when he wouldn't leave Scott's mother and father alone, but then, years later he's trying to take it out on their son. This guy is a principal and he's picking on a kid. Any teacher, principal, or anyone else working in a school that picks on kids is a low-life. I've seen people working in schools do this. I have seen bullies. The only thing worse than a student being a bully is a member of staff being a bully. I've seen teachers do it, the nurse, the principal, people working in the main office and the library. I've seen it so many times and it makes me sick. Bullying from a kid is bad, but bullying from an adult is worse.

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Thorne was worse, pretty much for the reasons you stated. He was an adult in a position of authority taking out his hostility on a kid who wasn't at fault for something that had happened years before. And it sounds like Thorne was no prize then, either.

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Definitely Thorne, I hate it when the staff is mean to certain students and wants to make their lives a living hell, I've had teachers who hated me because I wasn't popular or cool.

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Thorne, because he was an authority figure and he was taking out b.s. from years before on an innocent kid who had nothing to do with what happened years before, other than being the son of the guy and girl he had issues with. Mick was just a jerk.
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Thorne by a mile.

Mick had legitimate reasons for not liking Scott and why he was always a jerk to him. In my opinion I always thought that Pamela was more of the villain in the movie then Mick was.

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Thorne, not really even close

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I agree with Kain. While Mick was just an a-hole, and Thorn was a bastard, at least they didn't pretend to like Scott. Pam was worse than both of them because the only reason she was into Scott (and into Nick) was because he was the popular guy of the moment. Pretending to love them. That's even worse than honest hatred.

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Hands down, without a doubt, Thorne. Scott never did anything to him, played by the rules, and he uses an age old grudge he had with his father against him. He was looking for anything to bust Scott, and was happy the basketball team was sucked just for the fact Scott was on it. You would think someone with a position of authority would have a lot more maturity.

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Thorne reminds me of a former manager at one of my previous jobs who fired an employee who she totally disliked because she and this employee's mother were on bad terms as employees at another job, thankfully this particular manager got fired from our job thank goodness.

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As others have said, easily Thorne.

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Thorne because he always seemed to have it in for Scott for no apparent reason other than an age old grudge he had against Scott's father, for Mick being a bully I didn't think he was as bad as some of the other bullies I've seen in other movies.

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Thorne...a grown man picking on a teen repeatedly is just creepy. That weirded me out especially as a kid. Now I wish that Scott's father would call police. Come to think of it, isn't Boof's father the mayor of the town (or isn't this the cartoon) Can't he do anything about the creepy principal picking on underage children?

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Agreed. Thorne was the worst. Like you say, an adult picking on a kid, especially for something that has nothing to do with that kid, is far worse than another teenager doing so.

Out of the three villains, I'd say Mick was the least bad. He was the hapless muscle, and pretty much being used by Pamela the way she later used Scott, and out of the three characters, he was the only one with any reason to dislike Scott.

I never cared for the cartoon retcon which made Boof's dad the Mayor. Boof always seemed humble to me, and it would have made far more sense if snooty Pamela was the daughter of the town's bigwig, rather than Boof. Your last question raises the stupidity of turning a film's hero into a rich kid, because if the hero or hero's best friend/girlfriend, had that much power/connection to power, it stacks the odds back in their favour, and you're left asking "Why didn't their family pull some strings to help them through their predicament?" In my headcanon, it makes far more sense for Pamela's family to be the powerful ones, thus making poor Scott much more vulnerable (but stupid Hollywood seems to like the 'lonely sweet rich kid' trope).

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I thought cartoon Boof learning to be humble and not afraid of werewolves when her father is stuck up etc was interesting. They needed to delve into that more (like how did that happen). That contrast was one of the ways the cartoon was sophisticated for kids. He came out to Styles in the movie...who didn't care as long as he was straight lol

So how did Boof find out? Did she kinda sorta piece things together after getting clawed over in the closet by Scott

But their own local government still not protecting the family also reflected pre-ADA world since local/state governments did not have to protect people with 'conditions' back then.

Yes, Scott can attend a public high school but that's the only right under law he's actually guaranteed. ADA doesn't exist until 1990--and this is (remember) 1985. Scott like other kids who involuntarily change in school (asthma, diabetes, epilepsy) can't always control his "episodes' in the cartoon.

I had traumatic brain injury and epilepsy so I didn't think an elected official not standing up for a person with 'episodes' was stupid when originally watching it....and even now. I don't. That cartoon was made well before the ADA was passed (covering local governments responsibility to accommodate people with disabilities) They were just reflecting the times which the cartoon was made in. And which kids were also watching in. It does look " very odd" now bc thing have changed so much. Kinda like the same way we see a telephone booth, floppy disk or a typewriter in a movie etc but those are no longer a part of our world/expectations either.

If they did a cartoon 'update' with Scott and Boof raising their kids....Scott no longer is limited to working in the family business and Boof who is now the mayor CAN pass a non-discrimination ordinance which protects all residents of wolverton. She apologizes for the past which her family created.

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I also wish that Harold (Scott's Dad) also reported Thorne's behavior to the school administration, you can guarantee that he would have to be asked to resign if that happened.

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Yeah they could have/should have done that there....

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I also wonder why Thorne didn't appear at the championship basketball game? I wonder if he resigned or quit his job?

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I just assumed schedule conflict--which does happen even if administrator is not evil etc.

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