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so Deckard is not a replicant


because in the sequel he is still alive







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We don't know! If he was we don't know what life span he was given. Like Rachel he could have been made to be a an experiment.

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I agree. I've always thought of Deckard as a human, even though more evidence points to the contrary.

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even though more evidence points to the contrary.

Does forced after-the-fact evidence really count?

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"Forced after the fact evidence" That is true. Ridley shouldn't keep adding stuff to support his opinion, I mean we already have one George Lucas, we don't need another one.

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Think of it this way, Deckard is Nexus 7, perfectly human and thus no fail-safe necessary ...



Alex

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Deckard had no termination date.

He was totally off the database in regards to Replicants. So that is why I think he was a total black ops government program. Maybe he was a prototype. Maybe he was made with less tinkering hence why he survived in the new film and Rachel appears to be dead.

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He is human.

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As Alex says, he can be human and be a replicant.

Impossible is illogical.
Lack of evidence is not proof.
 +  = 

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So a Nexus 7 cop/detective replicant needed a 100 questions at Voight-kampf test to figure out that sitting across the desk was again an enhanced female secretary/manager assistant replicant?

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That is right, he isnt a replicant

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It's left up to the viewer to decide.

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no it isnt, we clearly see that he isnt a replicant in the sequel

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the people who argue that he is a replicant are basing it on the idea that he dreams of unicorns? habpve humans not dreamed of such things?

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There are two edits: In the first, there is NO evidence he is a replicant, thus, he IS human. In subsequent edits, the put the unicorn dream/memory back in, Gaff knowing about that, proves he IS a replicant.

Like Schrodinger's cat, it just depends on which version you are looking at presently. He is both.

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I tend to agree that it's both—or rather the answer's existential. Note the scene after Rachel saves his life, she asks will he come after her should she go north. He says no. He owes her. Eyes completely normal. But then he moves around to stand by her side—now of course he's lit by the same light hitting Young, so his eyes are glowing like a replicant's when he points out that someone will come after her.

I think at first Scott et al just toyed with hinting at Deck being a replicant, but not seriously. Then, in the director's cut they added Deck's vision of the unicorn (which could have been shot at any time & edited it) to mesh with Gaff's origami, which I think was originally left only to show that Gaff had been at Deck's apartment. The tie-in between Gaff & Deck's vision of the unicorn was added much later.

I think Scott & Co ultimately presented, whatever their intention, is the sense that one is human when one acts human, & replicant when behaving otherwise. So in that regard Roy is the only true human at the very end when he dies & we see the soul he has earned by saving Deckard pass heavenward in the form of the dove. Prior to that his eyes glowed the more fiercely than any of the others when he killed Tyrell & then senselessly killed Sebastian as well.

Least that's how I see it. Do wish they hadn't added the unicorn vision as it only muddles things up.

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