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Why this film is not on DVD... (reason #1?)


I think everyone knows that music was changed. The reason for the film still not being released is that the John Lennon song is on soundtrack. If someone is willing to pay Yoko Ono royalties, we may see this on DVD before 2010. If not, I highly doubt it until after she dies.

I don't think there are other problems, to be honest. If so, then they writers of those songs are shooting themselves in the feet. It's understandable about the former Beatles song. (And although Ferris Bueller contains "Twist and Shout" by the Beatles, they didn't write that song.



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Little Darlings on DVD, try here:

http://classictimemovie.com/little-darlings-1980-p-377.html

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http://centerviewplus.com/_Little_Darlings.html



Amazon says they have it, but only finding VHS.

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Amazon.com has this for rent now for 2.99 and it is 2:35 widescreen. You can get the HD rental for 3.99. Also, the John Lennon song "Oh My Love" is included. Seems to be all the original music.

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Hmmmm, maybe this is the real reason for no DVD releases! The copyright owners could make more money on the download versions than by releasing DVD/Blu-Ray where those items can be shared/swapped and/or resold without royalties. I expect it has to do with how much BLOCKBUSTER pays for movie copies, but I have seen dozens of copies of some movies destroyed in the stores rather than being sold as used copies.

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Over a year ago, a Samsung spokeswoman gave Blu-Ray discs about a 3-year lifetime, with the downloaded movie/video replacing formats that you can actually hold in your hand! Her comments had all hard copy media being replaced by downloaded (to FLASH, or another storage media) digital copies or streaming video.

--- Now for the GOTCHA parts...
Anybody out there remember the Divx discs? Those discs were almost like DVD's, except that the players REQUIRED access to online passwords that were only good for three days. If you had not watched your disc before the password expired, you had to pay another fee to get a new password that was good for another three days. You actually bought the copy in your hand that wouldn't play (by itself)...
I believe Tivo requires a phone line or internet connection to work also.
Any guesses on how long a downloaded digital copy will continue to play (eventually) without having to send more money somewhere?

And then there is the book "1984" aspect that the copies could be continually 'updated' without an original copy to use to show changes were made.
As examples:
In spite of the claims made about the Disney movie FANTASIA, there are certain portions of the centaur story that were 'modified' to be more politically correct, apparently by 'slicing' the frames into four quarters and keeping just the upper right quarter as the current version; a pan-and-scan technique may also have been used as well. That is fairly obvious due to the change in resolution quality (grainy) of those portions compared to the rest of the movie, and it was easy to do without a wholesale change in the musical score that would have been required if those modified portions had been partly removed instead. I have seen this on the VHS, 12-inch laserdisc, and DVD copies.
In the TV series 7TH HEAVEN, the episode "The Known Soldier" is about 3 minutes shorter than the other episodes because something was removed from the DVD version - a musical performance by "Ruthie" that was broadcast on TV.
Dare I even mention the STAR WARS movies? Why not... The original movies used many layers of film to construct the master version, but in the first versions, the overlay areas were easy to see in the VHS and 12-inch laserdisc 'home versions'. Those visible overlays were 'improved out' as later versions were produced with digital remastering, and the special effects were also improved. Then there is the scene in the cantina that was changed to add the bounty hunter firing at Han Solo first - originally Han was the only one to fire.


--- Now for the GOOD NEWS parts...
There are already 3-D versions of some movies available for the corresponding 3-D capable high definition displays, and as an example, Avatar is rumored to have at least two follow-up releases planned to incorporate more features and 3-D which would be MUCH easier to distribute via downloads. Storage capacity is getting cheaper and larger as time is passing, (1.5 TB hard drive for about $100 and 64-128GB FLASH media for about the same).
If you don't have access to the required high speed internet connection, you could go to a store or a download station to load a FLASH drive (or equivalent), then take the copy of the download to your mass storage drive system at home. (PC/MAC, TIVO, PS3, xBox, Wii, etc. also).

For now, I believe the planning of how this mass downloading will actually work is far from standardized. If anyone remembers the 12-inch laserdiscs from the 1980's, those eventually had about a dozen formats for the audio data that ranged from 1-channel mono to AC-3 (Dolby Digital essentially) and to the incompatible but superior DTS. (BTW, if you don't have a DTS sound system, be sure that any DVD/Blu-Ray you buy has your DD 2.0/5.1/etc channel sound or you will be very dissapointed in the sound you get from a DTS-only disc.)

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I also feel compelled to add a few comments about the merits of this particular movie... which I like BTW.

It has a lot of legally questionable "activity" that is portrayed in a "fun" way, and could be fairly easily imitated as well. For example, grand theft (stealing the camp's bus to find condoms), breaking and entering, burglary, inappropriate age difference sex (Tatum and her 'target'), underage drinking, drugs, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, trespassing, vandalism, assult, lying/embelishing, and more... Law enforcement has taken a much stricter line on what once were considered "pranks", and schools have adopted zero-tolerance policies since this movie was made.
A large part of the entertainment of the movie is all of that behavior, but there is a responsibility to share that with impressionable 'youngsters' as "just a movie" and not real-life behavior! Kids are smart, but they also learn behavior and could use guidance. And don't be surprised if you have some kids that just don't understand why you find that behavior funny...

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Ended up, against my instincts, picking up an old vhs copy on amazon for $20. Fullscreen, but at least it has all the original songs in it. The nice thing about the old vhs flicks (like, 1985 or earlier) is that they are easily duped onto a blank dvd+r in my dvd/vcr combo, without my having to copy the original vhs onto a blank vhs tape and then onto a dvd+r to trick the anti-pirating software built into the combo.

Of course, knowing my luck an official dvd release will happen within the next year.

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This movie was re-released on VHS with sound-alikes for the songs that had licensing issues, so that's not the issue. The number one reason this film isn't on DVD is that America has grown a lot more puritan and sanctimonious since the 70s, and the christian right-wing and its hatred of all fair treatments of sexuality has much more power over media conglomerates than it did in the 70s. That's exactly why. Naked Lunch, another edgy movie that deals with homosexuality and heroin addiction as well as portraying the life of writer/artist William S Burroughs, a genuine slice of subpop America, is impossible to find on DVD as well. Also, try to find High Velocity, a Ben Gazarra movie that portrays multinationals as bullies and sympathizes with leftist guerillas. Can't get it. Burn, a Marlon Brando film boiling with hate for caribbean slavery and colonization, is also tough to purchase. Exactly what media oligarchy do you think you live under?

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The reason "Little Darlings" has not been released, is not about politics, or the Ferris/Gary Relationship. Its something much more logical: I wrote a review of "Little Darlings" and included this (although there is another smaller reason which I noted) For those who want to know why "Little Darlings" not been released on DVD, here is the main reason: It's because it is a Paramount Picture and Paramount has basically given up their DVD rights to films they made post 1949 to Warner Home Video ( the earlier talking films are all owned by Universal) except for what they call " Legacy Films" such as "The Godfather" and "Star Trek." Note: Anyone who wants "Little Darlings" released on DVD should look online, and you can find it.

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It's not on on DVD becuase it's a SICK PEADO-BEAR movie..how this ever made it out of a PITCH MEETING is beyond me...

"Two 15-year old Girls vy to lose their virginity first"---HEY PEDO-BEAR...find another movie...SICKO!!

Only reason this got *ANY* play was because of Tatum O'Neal......

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^^^Pedos will watch anything with children in them. Anything with children in it is kiddie porn to them.

This is not a movie intended for that. It's a movie that was aimed at teenage girls at the time it came out. It's a coming-of-age story about girls who are almost adults. How many movies are there out there like that? Hundreds. I don't see why you are so upset by it. If it were primarily about 15 year old boys first sexual experiences, no one would complain.

If you have children, I feel sorry for them because they must have to hide their sexual issues until they become adults and leave home.

GG's-Sophia: ". . .my dear husband Sal, may he rest in peace until I get there. . ."

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I thought everyone knew the Beatles' future royalties were sold to some record label way back in the dark ages - in fact Michael Jackson ended up the primary beneficiary of their income.

That's the way I remember it, anyway. I think snopes has something on it, I honestly can't be bothered looking it up because the "reason" given for not releasing the movie on disc is so contrived and feeble sounding I just have trouble believing *anyone* actually bought it.

The fact is *thousands* of movies fail to come out on DVD, and mostly it's about simple economics: there is a huge cost involved in doing the digital conversion and printing several thousand copies of the disk and box jacket, then distributing the thing worldwide. It could be many months before it begins to make a profit (if at all) - take a look at the rating of the movie on imdb and on rotten tomatoes and ask yourself: is the studio is going to take a gamble on a 30-year old also-ran movie when there are hundreds being released every month, that are *much* more likely to make money?

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The Movie Channel HD showed a beautiful anamorphic widescreen broadcast with all the original music present. 100% original soundtrack, John Lennon song and everything else absolutely confirmed intact. Just do your homework to find it... it's out there.

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What I don't understand is why people don't get all-region dvd players?

They're only around 50 bucks on amazon. I've had this film and many others like it that were never released in the USA (or released in the USA only in butchered or inferior versions) for years, while others are out here complaining, simply because I bought an all-region player. No true fan of cinema should be without an all-region player. And all of these foreign dvds can easily be bought from Amazon's foreign stores online with your regular US amazon account. All you do is exchange the rates (which amazon does for you automatically) to make sure you know how much you're paying in dollars.

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Good point. I’ll look into doing this

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Coming to 4k/bluray this month from Vinegar Syndrome.

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/products/little-darlings

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