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Ducky boys nationality ?


does anyone know what ethnic group the duckyboys were supose to represent? they were the big group that was so mysteriouse & showed up to fight all the other gangs at the football game
CcRider

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irish no doubt.

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While I don't think there should be any doubt that the Ducky Boys Gang in the movie 'The Wanderers' where in fact of Irish descent. After all, there's a Ducky Boy wikipedia page, and a book called "Lost Boys of The Bronx - The Oral History of the Ducky Boys Gang", all stating that the gang was made up of predominately Irish gang members.

However, I think the more important question concerning the Ducky Boys, as depicted in the movie, is not so much what ethnic group the gang represents, but what the Ducky Boys gang represents in terms of Philip Kaufman's overall cinematic vision centered around the lives of urban ethnocentric tribal street gangs of NY city in the early 60's, that still exist today.

I think that it's important to note here, that while all the other gangs, The Wanderers, The Fordham Baldies, The Wongs and The Del Bombers, might project a hard tough persona to the point of being psychotically hyper-macho at times. However, in the end, all the gang members that aren't Ducky Boys display very human characteristics. Usually, in the area of humor or fear, even with the Fordham Baldies who are depicted as the biggest and toughest gang members, but also seem to be the most racially diverse gang in the movie, and doing incredible stupid human things, like getting drunk and volunteering to serve in Vietnam.

Now, compare that general description to the Ducky Boys Gang, who seem to appear in mass out of no where just before they start beating, stabbing and killing people without ever stating a reason or a cause for their violent attacks. In fact, no Ducky Boy ever says anything at all the entire movie, and their sudden unexplained appearance during the football contest between the Wanderers and the Del Bombers is as mysteriously surreal, as the first appearance of the Monolith was to the chimps, in Stanley Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey'.

I suggest here, that the depiction of the Ducky Boys Gang sudden appearance at the football game and elsewhere, isn't merely the director temporarily departing from the films unambiguous narrative form, in order to simply show off his sophisticated visual style, and philosophically nebulous emotional story telling ability. A talent that Philip Kaufman is well known to posses.

But, is instead, the director/screenwriter (Philip Kaufman) intentionally using the very real world Irish Ducky Boys Gang as a transcendent symbol linking the long violent history between New York's ethnocentric gangs, to all the other ethnic gangs depicted in 'The Wanderers'. After all, the first official gang of New York was an Irish gang called the 'Forty Thieves' of Five Points around 1825.

Suggesting here, that while all of the immediate conflicts between The Wanderers, The Baldies, the Del Bombers and the Wongs may seem important and significant at the time to all of their gang members in the early 60's and beyond. They're all in fact, simply a more modern temporary apparition of the long history of violent urban ethnocentric tribalism that eventually form the various ethnic gangs.

And, it's that anthropological and sociological urban history that all the Italian, Black and Chinese gang members band together to fight against on the football field, after being surprised and attacked by what seems to be, the disembodied spirits of inhuman gang members from centuries past in the form of the very real Ducky Boys.

You don't have to agree with my analysis. Just a little food for thought.

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Duck duck goose. Bhahahahaha

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Believe or don't, there's actually a <small> book on the Ducky Boys. :-\

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"Philosophically nebulous emotional storytelling ability".

Philosophically nebulous? Now that can`t be a good thing, can it? But from the way this Ducky gang had a habit of materializing almost as if from thin air - and vanishing the same way - they can probably be seen as some kind of symbolic dark, destructive force the youths need to reject/grow out of in the process of maturation and becoming reasonable citizens.



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I like how, when The Wanderers first encounter the Ducky Boys, it all of a sudden goes from a clear day to being nighttime, and this heavy fog has suddenly rolled in. Then, later with the confrontation with Turkey, the fog appears again.

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I thought they looked Polish, which is why they don't speak any English.

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