Which version was better?
This or the 2015 remake? I am going with the original version.
shareI cant recall any part of the 1977 version where a stormtrooper escapes from the Empire at the start of the movie. Also whn was Luke homeless scavenging, and then found a ship in a scrap yard to fly away in?
Im quite sure Luke and Obi Wan went to Mos Eisley canteena to find a pilot then get out of Tatooine.
- Droid receiving valuable information while the person who gave it to him is captured by a guy dressed in black
- The villain in black tortures the person who gave the droid the information
- The person who gave the information to a droid is rescued by someone in a stromtrooper outfit
- The droid meets a native on the desert planet who gets the droid off the planet in the Millennium Falcon but they have to outrun TIE fighters.
- The villains have a weapon that can destroy planets and they show their power to the galaxy by destroying planets
- The heroes lead a rescue mission into the planet destroying weapon and the older character is killed by the main villain
- The film climaxes in an attack where rebel pilots have to maneuver down a trench to shoot a missile into a hole that will destroy the planet destroying weapon.
There are also plenty of youtube videos on this subject if you need more convincing.
SO at the start of Star Wars 1977 when did a large chunk of the film involve a defecting stormtrooper?
Where was Luke scavenging, like i said, which you ignored because you were busy digging through your documents folder looking for that word.doc with that same old lame response.
Begone with your copy pasta response. you stole from somebody else who was stealing from someone else.
Show me in Star Wars 1977 where Luke is alone, scavenging....scavenging anything, he was simple farm boy. and then a stormtrooper defects from the Empire for a big chunk of the start inside the heart of the Empires main facility, then he breaks out a rebel pilot, the defecting stormtrrooper and the rebel pilot steal a tie fighter, they manage to get away and they crash land on Tatooine, splitting up. Then the defective stormtrooper meets up with Luke at the trading town because of a robot they both know (THEY BOTH KNOW, BOTH...........BOTH, in Star Wars 1977 a defected Stormtrooper and Luke are both friendly with a droid?)).
Then they get chased by the Empire and Luke Pilots a space frigate?
Show me where this happens in the first 30 minutes of Starwar 1977??????
Show me where Luke flies the space frigate into another space ship where a space dog and scoundrel appear asking why they have that ship which the scoundral claims ownership of, then run around that space hulk avoiding space gangsters and a deadly beast that kills everything
I cant seem to recall any of that from Star Wars 1977 or any of its sequels.
Can you?
You are just pointing out minor differences, TFA follows ANH pretty much plot point for plot oint.
shareThe whole first act is a minor difference?
You pointed out minor things from 2 movies that sorta mirror each other but are different.
If you take the some points from Terminator 1 and 2 you could say things are mirrored or similar things happen in a different order but you cant say Terminator 2 was a remake or copy.
The same with most films if you took minor similarities.
When people say TFA was a copy, a rip off of Star Wars plot I just relay the first act and ask them where in 1977 Star Wars did this happen. Then I watch them come unstuck and try to wriggle their way out of the discussion with deflections.
>TFA follows ANH pretty much plot point for plot oint.
"SO at the start of Star Wars 1977 when did a large chunk of the film involve a defecting stormtrooper?
Where was Luke scavenging?
Show me in Star Wars 1977 where Luke is alone, scavenging from a landed Star Destroyer....scavenging anything and living inside an AT-AT in the desert, he was simple farm boy with a cosy life drinking blue milk. And then a stormtrooper defects from the Empire for a big chunk of the start inside the heart of the Empires main facility, then he breaks out a rebel pilot, the defecting stormtrrooper and the rebel pilot steal a tie fighter, they manage to get away and they crash land on desert planet, splitting up. Then the defective stormtrooper meets up with Luke at the trading town because of a robot they both know.
Then they get chased by tie fighters and Luke Pilots a space frigate?
Show me where Luke flies the space frigate into another space ship where a space dog and scoundrel appear asking why they have that ship which the scoundral claims ownership of, then run around that space hulk avoiding space gangsters and a couple of tentacle monsters that are killing all the space gangsters."
I cant seem to recall any of that in Star Wars 1977. Thats a big fucking chunk of the movie.
Plot point by plot point. Like you said.
Yes T2 was a remake of T1, deflecting to another film is not going to help anything nor does it change the facts. And I already outlined how TFA ripped off and rehashed ANH. A rebel receives a valuable piece of information but has to hide it in a droid before they are captured by a character in all black, they are then taken into interrogation where the character in black attempts to torture the hero for information but the hero is then rescued by someone dressed in a stormtrooper outfit. The droid is then abandoned on a desert planet and comes across a native person who dreams of a life beyond the desert planet, the native person then takes the droid under their care but they are pursued by stormtroopers and then have to escape from the planet on the Millennium Falcon where they also meet up with Han Solo and Chewbacca. The villains are also creating a planet destroying weapon which they test out by destroying other planets in a very tearful and dramatic scene. The female character is also captured and the heroes have to start a rescue mission into a planet destroying weapon where an older hero character is killed by the main villain dressed in black by being stabbed with a lightsaber, the heroes barely manage to escape and the film climaxes with a group of X-Wings maneuvering down a trench where they have to fire torpedoes into the weapons weak spot and destroy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5unxo_f-Agw&t=96s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BX18Icf6fQ&t=138s
Yeah you're right they are completely different movies.
Ha haaa same fucking film! "Binary sunset theme played while using the force!!!!"
haa haaa a sequel in a series is not allowed to use music ques from previous films now?
"Anakins lightsaber is in a chest in both films so same movie!"
ha haaa same movie, you are right!!! Its so laughable, out of a 2+ hour film he made a 4 minute video of little similarites, some intentional homages some are just ridiculous and he's clutching so hard to fill up time.
Lord of the Rings theres hobbits, a ring and a wizard and they do some walking and some fighting and theres dialogue. Return of the King has the same so it ripped it off!
Tell me when in Star Wars 1977 does Luke Skywalker fight Darth Vader in the snow with the help of a defected Stormtrooper?
Like i said you will not do it just like you couldnt answer plot point by plot point of the whole first act of TFA and you couldnt tell me where that was in the original Star Wars, as I predicted you deflected and brought some tragic youtube video.
"Yes T2 was a remake of T1"
Nope it was a sequel that mirrored and homaged the previous movie. I dlove to hear a direct quote from Jim Camern himself saying it was a remake. Im pretty sure he said it was a sequel.
AGAIN.......................
"SO at the start of Star Wars 1977 when did a large chunk of the film involve a defecting stormtrooper?
Where was Luke scavenging?
Show me in Star Wars 1977 where Luke is alone, scavenging from a landed Star Destroyer....scavenging anything and living inside an AT-AT in the desert, he was simple farm boy with a cosy life drinking blue milk. And then a stormtrooper defects from the Empire for a big chunk of the start inside the heart of the Empires main facility, then he breaks out a rebel pilot, the defecting stormtrrooper and the rebel pilot steal a tie fighter, they manage to get away and they crash land on desert planet, splitting up. Then the defective stormtrooper meets up with Luke at the trading town because of a robot they both know."
SHOW ME WHERE IN THE ORIGINAL STAR WARS WHERE ANY OF THIS HAPPEND.
TIMESTAMPED!
Again you are just searching for minor differences, the story structures are virtually identical. Just Hangover 2 was the same thing as Hangover 1 and Home Alone 2 was the same thing as Home Alone 1
Luke doesn't have to be a scavenger, he's a lonely character on a Desert Planet who dreams of more and is suddenly thrust into an inter-galactic conflict when he meets a droid.
As for the stormtrooper in both films someone dressed in a stormtrooper outfit rescues the character who gave the information to the droid, BOTH TIMES.
Face it bud they are the exact same movie and I am far from the only person who says this.
Lol you got them hook line and sinker ...
share>Again you are just searching for minor differences
ANd then you give me this minor similarity. "someone dressed in a stormtrooper outfit rescues the character who gave the information to the droid". I dont know if youve seen star wars but in the first 30 minutes a defected stormtrooper who we spend a lot of time with rescues a pilot and they steal a tie fighter and crash land it on the desert planet. In the middle half of Star Wars Luke and the gang are running around the Death Star and battle their way into the detention centre and Luke rescues the princess then they jump into the garbage compactor, escape run around the death star a little more. Barring that minor similarity you named they are totally different scenarios and plot points, dialogue, shots.
Its like saying all James Bond films are the exact same film because James Bond gets a gadget and kills somebody with it wearing a Tuxedo and the James Bond theme played. EAch JAmes Bond film is a different beast, a totally different viewing experience between even though the similarities are bigger than Star Wars and TFA.
>Face it bud they are the exact same movie,
>the story structures are virtually identical.
I gave you the whole first act of TFA. That is story structure and plot. You gave me none, Anakins lightsaber in a box in both films is NOT story structure nor plot my friend. Its a similar occurrence and in 2 totally different contexts at different times. Both are exerienced in a completely different way.
Like you said plot point for plot point.
So when I relayed the first act of TFA plot point for plot point why do you refuse to point out where any of those plot points happened in Star Wars. No you give me a tragic youtube video of a guy clutching at straws claiming the films are carbon copies because Anakins lightsaber was in a box. Its laughable.
So if they are exact same movies with exact same plot points timestamp where in Star Wars 1977 does Luke Skywalker have a lightsaber fight in the snow against Darth Vader with the help of the defected stormtrooper?
You cant do it so keep on deflecting away.
Next, you'll say "Someone shot a gun with their right hand within the whole run time"..........same movie.
Tyler Durden wore a leather jacket, and so did Neo. Matrix and Fight Club are the same movie.
The Reluctant protagonist who thinks they don't fit in the world is looking for answers. Thrown into a different world, the narrator fights his co-star in a room. The middle part is living in a shitty house, and sparks the beginning of a love story between two characters. A cult around the main character. He is the prophet. Project mayhem, carnage on a city, destroying sky scrapers.
At the end of the film, the lead kills the antagonist who is not a real person.
Matrix and Fight Club are the same movie.