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111 minutes of sheer boredom


Never have I watched a mystery thriller (...wait a minute! is this actually a mystery thriller? *checks the genre of the film once again* oh yes!...) so boring.

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I weep for today's generation. This is a brilliant, thought-provoking movie exploring how our certainty of what is real or not is dependent on outside validation. In other words, we think we're the ones that decide with certainty whether something truly happened or didn't, but the opposite is the case. If we experienced something with our own eyes but there was no evidence to support it and no one to say, "Oh, I believe you," or "I saw what you did, too," over time we would begin to doubt ourselves and wonder if the thing we experienced really happened.

I rarely pull the "you didn't get it" card (I won't even do it for my favorite film, 2001: A Space Odyssey) but Blow Up is the one exception. You can complain about the movie being boring--that's fair, because it's a very slow-paced movie that takes place in real time. But complaining that it's pointless or meaningless or whatever, you just didn't get the movie. You didn't get that the whole point of the movie was to vicariously experience the frustration and confusion the photographer eventually feels as to whether the body was there or not.

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Reading your critique tickled me, putting me in mind of Hitchcock's reaction to all the pseudo-intellectuals who read all kinds of things into his every frame; things that were never his intention. That's why I laughed through Leonard Leff's commentary on the Criterion DVD release of Rebecca; he assumes all kinds of things in Hitch's camera set-ups and movements, lighting and shadows that were never part of the director's vision.

Oh, Ingrid, it's only a movie!" ~ Alfred Hitchcock

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Well, while I understand your meaning, I am not weeping for anyone. Some posters just don't get that everyone is definitely entitled to their own opinion. I have a problem with someone using such words as "always" or "never" when discussing films, or discussing just about anything. I have yet to encounter an absolute in life.

Anyway, this film does not revolve around a plot and therefore does not need the usual mystery or suspense features. The photographer is a character study - what will he do when confronted with certain situations. The central subject of the film, though, is photography itself. "Nearly half a century ago, in what he called his most autobiographical film, the renowned Italian director Antonioni came to the conclusion that reality through a lens is only ever a construct of the medium, that essential, we see what we want to see." Quoted from the below article:

http://www.americanphotomag.com/blow-up-Michelangelo-Antonioni-behind-most-famous-film-photography

The photographer's character kept me enthralled. Also there's symbolism throughout Blow Up; that's always interesting.

I understand that this film will not be appreciated by everyone. Many people want and expect action-driven films. As for myself, Michelangelo Antonioni is a director I had to learn about in order to really comprehend his films. I loved Blow Up the first time I watched it, but now that I know about Antonioni's style and what he is saying through his films I am able to truly enjoy and appreciate his films.

Many foreign films leave me completely puzzled at first. I will wonder what is so marvelous about a film I watch, especially after I read the message boards and see so many people posting accolades. Therefore I go onto the Internet and research the film, starting at Wikipedia and then going to university website collections, library collections, reviews, and other informative websites as well - whatever is out there.

I have had a world of cinema open up to me because of IMDb, knowledgeable posters having good debates (thanks for the civility), and further research. I believe films are an important source of information regarding our history of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. Additionally, films are so much fun and can impact lives in positive ways.




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But complaining that it's pointless or meaningless or whatever, you just didn't get the movie. You didn't get that the whole point of the movie was to vicariously experience the frustration and confusion the photographer eventually feels as to whether the body was there or not.


That is a crock. First off, we *saw* the body when he went back to the park (yet he was so dumb he wouldn't bring his camera with him when he went back to the park and saw the body lying there???) so this film isn't giving me an "is the body really there or not?" dilemma it's GIVEN a body and a murder to me and from this point on, I want to see a PLOT advance. I was getting so bored out of my mind that I was scanning through all this meandering crap in the nightclub etc. (after previously feeling compelled to scan through the pointless menage-a-trois that brought things to a grinding halt) and shouting at the screen "GET TO THE POINT!" Hell, I would have settled for Hemmings being shot dead as the last scene in the film by the same gunman who has gone back to wait for him, but no, I get this meandering crap with the mimes and the tennis etc. and I'm supposed to "interpret" this? Calling this a great movie is elitist hogwash at its absolute worst, emblematic of critics with their upturned noses who look down on audience members who go to a movie and expect something as mundane as a PLOT. Instead this film represents directorial narcissism at its absolute worst (an honor that I previously reserved for Kubrick's overrated "2001")

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Agree. It's ironic that Hemmings, the photographer, would not have his camera available when he went back to the scene to check it out, directly - and finds the body there. He seemed to have his camera with, or nearby, at almost every other point in the picture - so why not when it would have counted the most, and would have made the most sense?

This film is one boring tail chaser. While films, I believe, should leave a degree of "interpretation" open to the viewer, a film such as this, "elitist hogwash", as you call it, seem solely concerned with turning the viewer into a psychoanalyst who is directed to search for motive, purpose and, not least, a coherent plot. Sorry, but I watch films to be entertained, not to be compelled to take up another "profession" in order to gain any pleasure or understanding from it. A most unentertaining, and even annoying film, at best.

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The only time this deadly-dull film comes to life is when the luminous Vanessa Redgrave is on-screen, in her brief but pivotal role.

Yawn city.

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Agree - it was over halfway through the movie (slow, boring, and seemingly an entire lifetime) before the photographer even noticed the "clues" in the pictures.

"Don't ever let them catch you acting!" (Lillian Gish)

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I'm 57 minutes into this thing and I couldn't agree more. I only watched this because I liked David Hemmings in the pilot for Airwolf and I liked the Brian DePalma film Blow Out, which I thought was supposed to be an alternative re-telling of this story.

Dumb reasons to be sure, but man is this movie lame.

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Ah, the no attention span generation strikes again.

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I relate to everyone who called this film sheer boredom. I'll only amend the title to say that 101 minutes of it sheer boredom beyond belief punctuated by 10 collective minutes of brilliantly shot, imaginatively staged sequences that would offer suggestions of a brilliant mystery thriller. The scenes of the park with the wind blowing and the silence and the silence as Hemmings studies the photos is brilliant. The rest of the film sucks big time. And to those who are going to call me an "illiterate" for registering this view, go right ahead, that will just make you one of an endless series of elitist snot critics who look down on viewers who watch a movie expecting something mundane like maybe a PLOT to occupy my time? I'm reminded of Steve Martin's great line in "Planes, Trains And Automoiles". "HAVE A POINT!" Because this film has none except 100 minutes of directorial narcissism (the same thing that makes "2001: A Space Odyssey" another boring, overrated movie).

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Eric,

Plots in and of themselves do not have a point. Points in films can be found in the themes of them, probably more so than in "this happened to so and so."

The point of this film is based on the general human condition of how difficult it is to find meaning in our perceptions, while of course conceding that perception is essential to understanding.

The metaphorical purpose of the use of the concept of blowing up film, given the technology of the time, is central. The more Thomas blows up the film, he simultaneously does learn more, as in seeing the gun. But at the same time the image itself becomes more blurry. Is that blackness in the image REALLY a gun? And of course it is only the direction it appears to be pointed in, and who is on the possible end of a bullet's travel from that gun, all of which are not in the frame itself of the print where Thomas sees the gun. The point is in searching for meaning, what happens to that search as we encounter the limitations of our perception? How does focusing our attention on THIS leave something out by not focusing instead on THAT?

THe foregoing is hardly the only theme, and point, of the film. But my main point here is you mistake the course of a narrative for meaning and purpose.

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The point of this film is based on the general human condition of how difficult it is to find meaning in our perceptions, while of course conceding that perception is essential to understanding.


I rest my case. This is a "point" that I don't watch a movie to see unless I get something that a movie is supposed to do like an entertaining story. There is no entertainment in this story at all except for 10 brilliantly staged minutes that if it had been placed in a film with a good story would have been worthy of praise. Instead it was wasted in a film that for me went nowhere.

If I want a treatise on "finding meaning in our pereceptions" I'll read a scholarly text or attend a lecture. At least then I'll hear an author being upfront about his *point*.

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You rest your case if the trial is how conservative you are in insisting on a narrow purpose for films. And ftr I find Blowup very entertaining.

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"story, story, story"

I'm beginning to feel really sick of that word.

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"story, story, story"

I'm beginning to feel really sick of that word.


Heh. Me too.

Some people insist on films that follow a certain narrow pattern and purpose. And of course there is a "story" in Blowup. But the story, meaning what happens next, is not primary. It is what "the story" means that is primary, in the context of a certain way of looking at the world and the relation of the characters to it.

It is confounding on one level that at the same time technology provides us with all these new and different ways of interacting in any number of different ways, that there seems to be this insistent conservatism about what films, even older films, should be. Perhaps there is some connection.

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Some people insist on films that follow a certain narrow pattern and purpose.

Quite many people seem to. I think it's a bit sad. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with films like that, but it's rather narrow-minded to demand every film to fit that scope.

It is confounding on one level that at the same time technology provides us with all these new and different ways of interacting in any number of different ways, that there seems to be this insistent conservatism about what films, even older films, should be.

The fact that such new ways of interaction are provided does not guarantee that people use them to their full potential. Nor that those interactions necessarily amount to anything fruitful.

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I'm more than sick and tired of being told that expressing a preference that a film have something simple and basic as a plot is being "narrow-minded." For this film what I saw was something that except for ten solid minutes resembled a cinematic equivalent of what you more often get when the infinite number of monkeys at the infinite number of typewriters peck away. ("To be or not to be, that is the gazorninplat!")

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"I'm more than sick and tired of being told"

Well I am not surprised this is not the first time you are being told you are narrow minded, Eric. I guess you will not see the obvious point here, but perhaps that is because you are being narrow minded.

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Well I am not surprised this is not the first time you are being told you are narrow minded, Eric. I guess you will not see the obvious point here, but perhaps that is because you are being narrow minded.


No, the narrow-mindedness that I'm seeing is how critics of a certain elitist bent have this obsession with looking down on those who don't share their alleged superior aesthetic judgment on something and suggesting they are "narrow" for not kowtowing to their standard and suggesting there is something wrong with them for not accepting their premise that recognizing alleged "brilliance" in something means accepting their premise about what a film should have. That is nothing more than upturned-nose elitism.

Since this rotten film was the biggest two hour waste of my life I ever spent trying to watch a film I will now cease from wasting my life further being a part of this thread. Except to say to those who also posted expressing the same thing: I feel your pain.

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Why is having a plot basic for a film? It's not basic for a piece of music, is it? So why would it be basic for a film?

You don't have to like the film, there's nothing wrong with that. But requiring every film to have a definitive story does narrow the scope of films significantly.

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Eric-62-2 is incoherent.

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"The fact that such new ways of interaction are provided does not guarantee that people use them to their full potential. Nor that those interactions necessarily amount to anything fruitful."

Yes, that, and then there's also the possibility that the way technology provides new ways to interact may be having a conservative effect, where people feel they can choose how to interact, and then also choose art forms and modes of expression that confirm rather than challenge their point of view and aesthetic preferences. For example it is common knowledge that people tend to stay with websites and sources of information that confirm and are in agreement with their political points of view, so much so that outlets even offering actual facts are discounted as having a "slant" that differs from that of the viewer choosing his or her preferred outlet.

The result is not necessarily a political conservatism across the spectrum, since liberals and progressives to some extent do the same thing as Fox viewers and Rush listeners. I am instead focusing here on a more artistic and social conservatism. It amounts to saying and acting in a way that says "Confirm my existing views, and never challenge them."

It's part of the times we live in.

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Yes, that, and then there's also the possibility that the way technology provides new ways to interact may be having a conservative effect, where people feel they can choose how to interact, and then also choose art forms and modes of expression that confirm rather than challenge their point of view and aesthetic preferences. For example it is common knowledge that people tend to stay with websites and sources of information that confirm and are in agreement with their political points of view, so much so that outlets even offering actual facts are discounted as having a "slant" that differs from that of the viewer choosing his or her preferred outlet.

True, but I think it's quite a natural thing for people to do, not strictly limited to the times we live in. From an evolutionary point of view, it makes more sense to stick with the more powerful party than the weaker one, regardless of which one is right. "War does not determine who is right - only who is left."

I think the most important part in the development of the humankind has been being able to ideologically and morally come over some of our natural limitations. However, we still have a long way to go.

The result is not necessarily a political conservatism across the spectrum, since liberals and progressives to some extent do the same thing as Fox viewers and Rush listeners. I am instead focusing here on a more artistic and social conservatism. It amounts to saying and acting in a way that says "Confirm my existing views, and never challenge them."

Yeah, and I feel that most (meaning: even more films than before) of the films these days do tend to cater to a rather limited set of views.

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Steady,

While we are in basic agreement here, I do think your post immediately above is just a bit confusing. While you are correct that the preference to choose art and other forms of expression with which we feel comfortable is common, you also note (again correctly) that as regards "films these days" are ones that cater to the more limited. I interpret your saying "these days" to mean there is more of that catering than at least some other times, which I do think is also correct.

Take the visual arts, particular paintings. While there were certainly examples of abstract works prior to WWI, the dominance of abstract art increased substantially after WWI, and then really took off after WWII. It is hardly my own theory that this was because the great trauma of the two world wars, particularly in succession, led people to distrust or lose faith in the dominant aesthetics and frames of reference that preceded. The net result was an openness to new forms of expression and a willingness to toss aside what had been ascendant.

In films while occurring somewhat later than in the visual arts there was something of a movement away from really the literary model of conventional storytelling found in most films before WWII and even after. (To be sure such films never stopped being made; I am talking instead about a larger fractional presence of non-conventional films.) I would say first you had non-conventional subjects still presented in the trappings of "a story" such as Bergman's The Seventh Seal. Then unconventional story structures like the shifting protagonists in Antonioni's L'Avventura. Then you get to other films like Blow-up which carry that experimentation into other areas.

My point here is there certainly seemed more willingness among audiences then to try out the new and less conventional than that which preceded. As I said before maybe the reason that is lacking today is that people feel more challenged in other ways, by new technologies among other things. I would not rule out a general social and artistic conservatism, though.

In any event we can wonder about the causes, but that there are more limits on the range of types of films is clear.

But the opposite can also occur.

In films the

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I interpret your saying "these days" to mean there is more of that catering than at least some other times, which I do think is also correct.

You interpreted that correctly. I'm sorry that my post was confusing, that seems to happen quite often (after all, English is not my native language).

Take the visual arts, particular paintings. While there were certainly examples of abstract works prior to WWI, the dominance of abstract art increased substantially after WWI, and then really took off after WWII. It is hardly my own theory that this was because the great trauma of the two world wars, particularly in succession, led people to distrust or lose faith in the dominant aesthetics and frames of reference that preceded. The net result was an openness to new forms of expression and a willingness to toss aside what had been ascendant.

Yes, I agree, and it seems to be the general consensus (as you suggest).

In films while occurring somewhat later than in the visual arts there was something of a movement away from really the literary model of conventional storytelling found in most films before WWII and even after. (To be sure such films never stopped being made; I am talking instead about a larger fractional presence of non-conventional films.) I would say first you had non-conventional subjects still presented in the trappings of "a story" such as Bergman's The Seventh Seal. Then unconventional story structures like the shifting protagonists in Antonioni's L'Avventura. Then you get to other films like Blow-up which carry that experimentation into other areas.

Yeah, and I wonder why that kind of experimentation has died off (at least in "mainstream" films). There still is a lot of experimentation in ways of telling a story, but no filmmaker seems to dare to question the underlying principles.

My point here is there certainly seemed more willingness among audiences then to try out the new and less conventional than that which preceded. As I said before maybe the reason that is lacking today is that people feel more challenged in other ways, by new technologies among other things. I would not rule out a general social and artistic conservatism, though.

I think this is partly because many people seem to view films purely as entertaiment nowadays, and as nothing else. One could wonder why that is, though.

In any event we can wonder about the causes, but that there are more limits on the range of types of films is clear.

Yes, it's clear and it's sad.

But the opposite can also occur.

Yes, and let us hope that shall happen one of these days.

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The point is in searching for meaning, what happens to that search as we encounter the limitations of our perception? How does focusing our attention on THIS leave something out by not focusing instead on THAT?

Doesn't the "search" end, literally, when Hemmings sees the body? That he didn't have his camera with him to photograph it (one of the few points in the film when he didn't have a camera with or close to him, and, ironically and unjustifiably, when it would have made the most sense for him to have had it), illustrates that this film is more directed at creating unresolved dilemmas, rather than answering questions, ultimately, for the viewer.

A film can legitimately cause a viewer to think and analyze, but it should also clarify and lead to some sort of relevant conclusion. Since there are innumerable interpretations of what this film is trying to say, it, in effect, ends up as an exercise in futility, one that ultimately says - nothing.

You say, "But my main point here is you mistake the course of a narrative for meaning and purpose." Maybe so, but the narrative should give clues as to meaning and purpose and what the film is saying. There is no such attempt here, and everything is left open-ended - which is not very satisfying when one is set on a path looking for answers and explanations - and gets only more questions and dilemmas.

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You are probably too young to appreciate movies from the 1960's.

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You are probably too young to appreciate movies from the 1960's.

Can you please indicate to whom, or to what, you are referring to? Thanks

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This is a classic movie from the 1960's. You have to lived through that era in order to understand/appreciate such a film. 'nuff said.

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This is a classic movie from the 1960's. You have to lived through that era in order to understand/appreciate such a film. 'nuff said.

Can you provide examples of some other films of "that genre" that present the kinds of problems (yes, problems!) that Blowup does for the viewer? This film, at least for me (who is well versed in films of the 60's, 50's, 40's, and those of the 70's and 80's, as well) is an exercise in futility, offering one disconnected sequence of events after another, with virtually none of them offering any explanation, outright or otherwise, to the central dilemma (which, BTW, does not make its appearance until half way into the film!).

Up to that point, the film can, I think, be reasonably regarded as a pseudo-documentary of the principle character's daily existence (in the '60's), with the mystery of the murder then thrown in to break up the monotony. But the murder, and the Vanessa Redgrave character, only raise questions that are never addressed realistically, or in a way that explains the Hemmings character's actions. The "why's" are never resolved, such as why he never contacts the police, why he doesn't have a camera at his disposal when he returns to the "murder" site, who Redgrave really might be and what her role in the event ("Murder"?) might be, etc.

The presentation of questions in a rather boring plot does not constitute a legitimate movie in my opinion - it is rather designed with the purpose of frustrating the viewers and compelling them to look for substance where there isn't any. A film should, again, in my opinion, provide some guidance for the viewer, even if in uncertain terms, as to what its point is intended to be. I can't find any point to this film, which, itself, frustrates logical interpretation, even in an illogical world. In short, this film is a waste of time, a mental test for the viewer, but a test to which there is no answer.

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This is a stupid take. You can only enjoy movies if you lived through the era they take place on? WTF?

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this movie is freakin' awesome. ya'll guys are brainless

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"Awesome"? Perhaps you can explain why. Your reply is as enlightening as this picture is - it says nothing!

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It’s so ironic how Blow-Up is actually about the dumbed down people who posted here about how boring it is. Maybe the title mislead them to think it would have explosions and car chases.

This movie is an existential statement. Nobody really knows exactly what it means, just like the painter in the movie.

The kids at the Yardbirds show were an example of bored and thrill seeking youth who only get excited when a piece is garbage is tossed at them to fight over. Sounds just like the posters here.

This movie says so much about our post cultural revolution. If you don’t like thinking about symbolism then this movie is not for you.

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yep

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