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Musically, did she fall off after 2011?


She was white-hot when she first started around 2008, and she kept it up for about 3 years: Just Dance, Poker Face, Paparazzi, Bad Romance, Telephone, Born This Way

But since 2011, her numbers seemed to dwindle, and she isn't half as relevant musically as she once was, right? The only singles that really killed it in the billboard charts are the one from the movie ("Shallow") and the one with Ariana Grande ("Rain on Me") ... I think Gaga has more acclaim from her acting career nowadays

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Yeah, acting seems to be her main focus now. She’s achieved some remarkable things in music though, being the only female artist to have four singles that sold over 10 million copies each globally. She’s a talented, passionate musician so I think a musical “comeback” is inevitable.

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She fell off on P-p-p-p-p-poker face and Pa-pa-pa-pa-pa parazzi.

They were dated on release. Cheesy synths, repeated lyrics to fill gaps. I can't look somebody in the eye if they said they listen to any of that drivel today.

At least Madonna's pop hits were good, and have stood the test of time.

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Agreed with Paparazzi but hard disagree with Poker Face.

Poker Face was one of her breakout songs and she tried to repeat the same formula with Paparazzi. Whether you like either is up to you, but Poker Face was a huge hit and I remember even catching people who avoided pop music listening to it back then in their cars because it was so catchy.

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>I remember even catching people who avoided pop music listening to it back then in their cars because it was so catchy.

Anecdotal evidence.

If they had it on in their car they probably had a pop station on the radio (so actively not avoiding pop music) and having it served to them 3 times an hour with all the other pop music of the day.

Did you stop cars in the street, ask people to roll down the window to see if they were listening to mah mah mah mah-P-p-p-p-p-p-poker face, and getting jiggy with it to that cheesy synth straight from a toy box then go through a survey with them about their musical tastes?

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Did you interview people back then and gather any evidence to support your claims?

Do you even have any "anecdotal evidence" or is this all simply your opinion as it appears to be from your first post here and onward?

Meanwhile I could point to evidence such as records sales, guest appearances, presence on magazine covers and so on if it was worth my time.

It's not though and your disingenuous "anecdotal evidence" routine is far less clever than you think it is.

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>Did you interview people back then and gather any evidence to support your claims?

What claims? That I believe her pop songs are cheesy fast food music?

>or is this all simply your opinion as it appears

Are you Sherlock Holmes?

>Meanwhile I could point to evidence such as records sales, guest appearances, presence on magazine covers and so on if it was worth my time.

Cute. You do realise that 14-year-old girls dictate the top of the music charts?

Shocking fact. The best music of the day is not reflected by the top of the music charts.

That record companies push fast food music because it generates the most sales from 14-year-old girls, not the quality of the music itself.

By your logic, N-SYNC are a better band than Pink Floyd (Only 1 #1 single in the US) because they had more number 1 singles, had more TV time, and magazine covers?

Are you really trying to say that 14-year-old girls are the epitome of musical taste and the trailblazers on what is good and bad music?

For example, The Birdie Song (1981) by The Tweets was a worldwide hit in multiple countries in multiple years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESViOhqRdlE

Strawberry Fields by The Beatles never made it to number 1 in the UK or the US charts.

By your logic The Birdie Song (1981) is better than The Beatles! ha haaaa

Immigrant Song by Led Zeppelin peaked at 16 in the US billboard charts.

On release in November of 1970. Instead of flying up the charts it stalled at number 83 while the number 1 best song of that day. The peak of music (Your logic) the most screen time, and interviews, TV magazine covers etc (your logic)

#1 single at the top of the Billboard charts was, drum roll....................

I Think I Love You by The Partridge Family Starring Shirley Jones & Featuring David Cassidy

https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1970-11-21/

Written by somebody else, all the instruments performed by somebody else. Handed to puppets to put their face on the cover to sell records to 14-year-old girls, like most throwaway pop twaddle.

I rest my case.................


>It's not though and your disingenuous "anecdotal evidence"

Disingenuous? ha haa I merely pointed out you tried to bolster your point with fugazi stories about multiple people in cars 17 years ago because you like Lady Gaga songs. Now that's the definition of disingenuous.

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I know I didn't really like "ARTPOP" when it was first released, but grew to love it after a few listens! That being said, her first two albums are still my favorites, along with the two with Tony Bennett...

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