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Just a thought. Was Nostradamus Correct?


Nostradamus made a lot of predictions, but as far as predicting world-changing conquerors, he only made three. He called them the three antichrists. The first conqueror he named Paunayloron after the three towns Pau, Nay and Loron in France, and is often ascribed to Napoleon. The second conqueror he named Hister after the Latin name for the Danube River which begins in Germany, and is often ascribed to Hitler. The third antichrist he named Mabus, an Arabic conqueror whose war would last approximately 30 years involving a cataclysmic event around the year 2000, which is where people got the idea that Nostradamus predicted the world would end in 2000. Others argue that 2000 was merely the beginning, and the 30 year-war would follow.

Now maybe if you give Saddam some funky spelling like sudam and put it to a mirror, you kinda get Mabus but with a backwards a. Seems like a big stretch, just like Saddam's connection to 9/11.

But now there's a new head cheese in the Middle East whose regime has ties to 9/11. MBS. Mabus? Hot damn that's a coincidence if I've ever seen one.

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No one can see the future, that's mystic hogwash.

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I tend to agree, but the coincidences are hard to dismiss.

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They are plenty easy to dismiss. You're seeing a pattern that exists only in your mind (nothing personal intended). It's like if you see a cloud that looks like a human face. The cloud obviously isn't human, it's a cloud, your brain is just automatically filling in a pattern. The patterns you're seeing in Nostradamus don't mean anything: his predictions were so vague that you could fit almost any pattern to them if you stretch your logic enough.

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True, but he only predicted three antichrists. Paunayloron from France, Hister from Germany, and Mabus from Arabia.

From a guy who in his time was already known to predict things, that's crazier than winning the lottery.

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So what? All he did was make up a bunch of names. Whatever similarity you see to modern day real life people is entirely a coincidence.

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I never said it wasn't a coincidence, but it's a lot more than making up a "bunch of names." It's three names, all tied to a region, all with conquering ambitions. It would be like winning the Powerball jackpot... twice.

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"I never said it wasn't a coincidence". Yeah, you say that, yet you keep writing as if it were significant somehow.

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And why are you so put off that I find significance in it? Why are you so driven to argue with someone that a joke is not a question?

You are exhibiting the characteristics of an anal retentive.

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Why are you so put off that I'm put off? Am I not allowed to be irritated at irrational and inane posts?

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Because you replied to me. That's generally how it works. I said something that wasn't put off, and you got put off by it. So now I'm going to question you being put off by something that had no reason to put you off.

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"something that had no reason to put you off" That's your opinion.

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Honestly, my original post had no opinion. Unless you consider the idea that it's a coincidence is an opinion, but that is one you agree with. The problem is you took it as something I believed to be true. That incorrect belief coincided with your opinion, putting you off.

So this combined with your other posts shows a clear predisposition of you being put off by people. Maybe it's your form of entertainment. I have no idea. But you must be aware it's going to rub people the wrong way.

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Well, it's my opinion that something that is merely a coincidence doesn't require any further analysis. There is nothing to be gained from it.

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And it's my opinion that a coincidence is a lead. Without analyzing such leads, there'd be no way to learn if Russia interfered with the election.

To simply say it's all a coincidence and deserves no attention seems like the wrong course of action.

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If there are facts that reasonably support a hypothesis that it's NOT a coincidence, then yes, further investigation is valid. Once it's established that all the facts add up to nothing but coincidence, then there's nothing left to do but walk away.

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Ah, but what if you cannot prove it is a mere coincidence? Do you still walk away? Perhaps, but I don't see the point of getting put off. It's almost like you are upset because you have an opinion that cannot be proven.

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In the case of Nostradamus, all you need to prove that it's a coincidence is to know that he was a natural human being, not a deity, and therefore he couldn't predict the future, and therefore his "predictions" aren't worthy of any discussion. What irritates me is that you claim to understand all that, yet you want to keep pursuing the discussion for seemingly no damn reason. "I agree it's a coincidence" should have been the end of it. The fact that you keep pursuing it makes me suspect that on some level, maybe even one you won't admit to yourself, you DO believe in such hocus pocus.

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For 20 years I was intrigued if Mabus would ever show up. Saddam was too much of a stretch. With MBS being the biggest head honcho we've ever seen for a country with the most ties to 9/11, it's not even fair, like someone is playing a joke.

If coincidences like that are basic, I'd like to see more.

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Mabus = Melania!

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Gotem!

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I put about as much stock in the predictive power of Nostradamus as I do in astrology, in other words, not a whole lot. It's a rorchard test.

But in the wikipedia entry for Mabus it's described as a common Nostradamus hoax:

'Mabus' as Antichrist

Some have interpreted the writings as predicting a series of three antichrists. However, the name "Mabus" as a synonym for or embodiment of the third antichrist is not suggested by any of the Prophecies. In fact the verse in question (II.62) merely states that a character of a similar-sounding name (according to Lemesurier [op. cit.], a reference to the Flemish painter Jan Mabuse, contemporary with Nostradamus) will die. Otherwise, the reference says nothing about what "Mabus" will do or what he will be like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus_in_popular_culture#'Mabus'_as_Antichrist

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