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The Kind of Music You Hear While Seeing Local Bands?


Excluding original material.

When I say "local" it doesn't have to mean your city alone, but if you go around the world, what do the locals play?

I've been all around North America, Europe, Australia, and Asia, and I'd say 99% of what I hear is music from the 60/70s. Not always the best, but they're usually songs you'd hear on the radio.

One band I never hear are The Doors, and I wonder if its because they don't feel like they (lead singer especially) can duplicate it. I hear Pink Floyd often, "Money" and "Comfortably Numb" (but never "Another Brick In The Wall: Part 2).. "Takin' Care of Business" is another one (even my band played it). I don't hear much Beatles or Stones, maybe a song or two. I don't remember hearing Led Zeppelin, and I think its because the vocals can be tough. I'm sure singers wouldn't wanna burn out their voice before their set is over.

I notice a lot of 4/4 straight-rock beats, maybe a shuffle, and occasionally a blues/waltz, and a ton of 2 or 3-chord songs...

I suspect some cities overseas try to cater to English speaking tourists. I do remember "The Thrill Is Gone" in Thailand, but the band played mostly original reggae.... Many times I/we would be walking, and after hearing music, we'd go in and check them out, or at least try to make out what is being played from the outside. I notice the karaoke very similar to what cover bands play.

Anyway, I'd love to hear your stories, or your theories.. Cheers!

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I'm in rural Kentucky, where country and bluegrass dominate. I don't care much for either of those, personally. The exception being Johnny Cash, I like his music. He always said that what he did borrowed from country music but wasn't really country per se. But generally I'm into rock and classical (in the broader sense of the word). I might be the only person in this town who can recite the Bayreuth canon from memory. So I don't go to the local bands.

I see no contradiction in those tastes. If Ludwig Van Beethoven had been born 175 years later he would have been smashing guitars alongside Pete Townshend. I sincerely believe this.

> I do remember "The Thrill Is Gone" in Thailand

Thirty years ago I vacationed in Tokyo. Every Sunday afternoon musicians gather at Yoyogi Park and play. I went there and watched. One of the groups was four teenage girls, dressed like the Beatles in their early years, like this -- https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/rs-27996-beatles-1800-1392054926.jpg

When I spoke to them after their performance I found that while they spoke some English, it was poor and heavily accented. That's typical of Japanese; they study English in their schools, but their system for teaching foreign languages is flawed and the product is low quality. But their performance was an excellent rendition of "I Want To Hold Your Hand," perfectly pronounced all the way through. They must have painstakingly studied it and worked on it, syllable by syllable.

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I enjoyed reading your story, thanks for sharing.

Of course in bed, I think of another huge factor I missed... Songs that make you wanna drink alcohol!

I did remember hear The Doors' "Roadhouse Blues" in Austin, Texas... I know I heard Billy Joel's "Piano Man", which has a feel of rows of people moving their huge mugs of beer to the rhythm, rocking it back and forth.

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> Songs that make you wanna drink alcohol!

One in particular for me. Abbey Road. My niece is now in her twenties, married, and with a baby. Back when she was three I introduced her to the Beatles with that album. Of course, being three, she thought it was wonderfully silly -- "Mean Mister Mustard," "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window," and all that. Getting a little buzzed helps me fully relive the experience.

> I know I heard Billy Joel's "Piano Man", which has a feel of rows of people moving their huge mugs of beer to the rhythm, rocking it back and forth.

I'm an amateur musician, but I daresay a pretty good one by amateur standards. I started taking piano lessons when I was five. I've got perfect pitch, and so I can usually pick up tunes pretty readily. In high school I was judged to be one of the best young musicians in the state and selected to play in the state's youth concert orchestra. In college I got fascinated by some of Billy Joel's music and did a few of his songs, including Angry Young Man -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJf7_5vH1WE

In my twenties I could perform that perfectly, including the rapid fire hammering around middle C. And of course, one wants to do it for dramatic effect, so I'd not just machine gun those notes but I'd bring my hands up high as I did it, giving the maximum wow effect for the audience. Ten years later, in my thirties, I found to my surprise that I couldn't quite do it at all, no matter how I went about it. A little weird to discover at that age that you're actually aging. A few years ago, I went to see Yes in concert. The senior citizen Steve Howe's fingers flew over his guitar as fast as a teenager's. I'm in awe of people like that.

I was one of my college's best musicians, but there was a fellow student who was way beyond me. It's only natural to feel a competitive urge, but with him it would have been absolutely pointless, I would have been like a run of the mill small college basketball player going one on one against Michael Jordan. He was already playing professionally and had been doing so since he had got his driver's license. We became good friends. He didn't try to lord it over me that he was a better musician than me, it was just a natural fact that didn't need to be said. It was a positive experience for me -- one of the steps to maturity is discovering that however good you are at anything, even if you're the stellar performer in your small town high school, there are people out there who are better than you. Sadly, he had a problem with the bottle. He died in a DUI crash when he was twenty-seven. Three decades later, I still get sad from time to time, missing him.

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Sad story
I try not to think of the ones we've all experienced losing

Just last night I thought of my buddy, killed cleaning one his pistols about 27 years ago

Several others too



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> Sad story

LOL Don't worry about it. Three decades is a long time. But thanks for the kind thoughts.

I hadn't thought about playing Billy Joel songs, my college days, or my dead friend in quite a while. BillHicksFan's mentioning Billy Joel reminded me of playing Angry Young Man, which reminded me of my college days. I started to write that response only to tell the story that in my thirties I already couldn't do some things I had done a few years earlier. While writing it I remembered my friend and added that part.

Now, nine days later, I had forgotten about this thread and my participating in it. When I saw the notification I didn't recall telling this story, instead I thought you were responding to my post above ("I'm in rural Kentucky, where country and bluegrass dominate."), in which I said that the local bands aren't to my taste. It was only when I saw your response here that I recalled those things at all.

So, it's long since ceased to be a painful memory or even a constant one. Just an occasional sad moment. Maybe that's sad in itself, he was a good friend back then but it's been so long he doesn't even seem quite real to me anymore. I hope it's the same way with your late friend.

Two mornings ago, when I brought my morning coffee to this desk and sat down to check my email, I did it the way I always do. My chair is a swivel office chair, like this one:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flash-Furniture-High-Back-Black-Fabric-Executive-Ergonomic-Swivel-Office-Chair-with-Height-Adjustable-Arms-BT661BK/301745314

I turned the chair away from the desk, sat down in it while holding the coffee cup, and put the coffee on the floor so it would be behind me when I turned back to the keyboard. My practice when working at the computer is to keep the coffee behind me like that. When I want to take a drink I'll turn around, away from the computer, drink the coffee, then put the cup back down and turn back to the computer.

When I did that the day before yesterday, I spilled some coffee on the floor as I set the cup down. Had I done what most people do, keep the coffee cup on the desk, I might have damaged my computer. That's why I do it the way I do it. An accident is only going to happen one in a thousand times, but if you take precautions every time, when an accident does happen it will be harmless.

I started doing things that way when I took flying lessons. Before you take a plane up you check it over on the ground. And you don't trust what the gauges say. You take the gas caps off (on top of the wings) and look to verify there's gas. There are little valves on the bottom of the wings, and you drain a little gas into a clear tube to verify that moisture hasn't got into the wings and fouled the fuel. (Water is heavier than aviation fuel, and the fuel has a blue tint. If your sample is nothing but blue, you're good. If it's all clear, or blue on top with a clear layer at the bottom, don't take the plane up.)

That's how I do it with handguns. Before I clean them I unload the weapon. I take out the magazine. I look in the chamber to verify there's no cartridge left behind. Then I recheck by holding a flashlight in front of the pistol, pointing it down the barrel, and verify that I can see light coming into the chamber. If it's daytime and the sunlight coming in the window makes it impossible to do that, I'll take the gun to a darker room for that step.

I don't want to sound preachy. Maybe I'm overly anal retentive. But I figure there are some things you only need to get wrong once. When I hear stories like the one about your friend I get a little angry. A life uselessly wasted, just because he probably did nothing more than get distracted for a moment. So unfair.

Since this exchange has been something of a downer for both of us, I'll lighten the mood by telling a funny story about my flying days.

One of my fellow students, when it came time for test for his license, pulled a hilarious prank on the FAA examiner. He bought a gas sampling tube, like the one I wrote about earlier, identical to the ones in the school's planes. He got some blue food coloring liquid, filled the tube with water, then added drops of coloring to get it to the right tint. He had that tube with him, hidden, when the examiner was watching him do the pre-flight checks. After he drained the sample from the wing, he managed to momentarily turn his back to the examiner and in that instant switched tubes. Then, in the moment after when he was facing the examiner again, he lifted his tube to his lips, took a swig from it, sloshed it around in his mouth, sucked air in, et cetera, as if he was tasting wine, spit it out onto the ground, looked at the examiner and said, "OK, we're good."

He told me later that his only regret was that there was no practical way to take a picture of the examiner's reaction, to preserve it for posterity.

(to be continued)

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The examiner took it well. I wasn't there that day, but we had the same instructor and she told me what happened when I arrived for my next lesson. When the two of them returned to the school's office they were both laughing. The examiner said to our instructor, "He passed. You do good work. But I have to say, your methods are very weird!" He then told her what had happened, then said that his word alone probably wouldn't mean much, but the first thing was going to do when he returned to his office was phone the Aviation Hall Of Fame and nominate this newly licensed pilot to be enshrined there.

Incidentally, since this is a movie board, I'll add that my instructor looked a lot like a young Teri Garr. Remember her in Young Frankenstein? Like that. That was thirty years ago. Last year I tracked her down on Facebook. She's now flying passenger jumbo jets, "big iron," to use the industry lingo, on the trans-Atlantic routes. Living her dream. As for her looks, she really hasn't changed much, looks like Teri Garr at perhaps 35, even though she's now 51. Good for her.

Well, I'll shut up now, I've got to get some other things done today.

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Good story!Young Teri Garr was extremely fetching

Yeah, I prefer revolvers myself, fairly mistake-proof and no jamming

Be well man, have a good day

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Here's a funny thing. Teri Garr was in her late twenties when she did that picture. And her appearance is a pretty good description for how my instructor looked. Also, my instructor was licensed to do all of these things -- fly single engine planes; multiengine planes; fly in non-visual, conditions, when visibility is so poor the pilot must rely on instruments; and fly for money. And, she was certified to teach every one of those things as well.

Between that impressive list of qualifications and her appearance, I assumed she was in her late twenties. Mid twenties, maybe, but certainly no younger. Last year, I tried out Instant Checkmate, one of those services where you can search for people and get full reports on them. It seems to be quite good, and I still use it. I had tried several times over the years to find her, just wondering what had ever happened to her, and hadn't been able to. With Instant Checkmate I was able to do it in about ten minutes.

When I looked at IC's report on her, I saw that she was born in 1970, not 1965 or so as I would have guessed. Which meant that she was 21 when I was taking those lessons. IC isn't 100% reliable, although it's pretty good. Now knowing her married name, I Googled some more and found her Linkedin profile. She's got her Embry Riddle degree listed on it and the years she attended, and 1970 seems right. That summer, 1991, she was home from college on vacation.

Now, they do a lot of flying at Embry Riddle. It's not just classroom work. And maybe the typical 21 year old there has those qualifications. But in her case, I also know that she started flying very early. Her family is heavily into aviation, and she's actually related to the Wright brothers some way, although I've forgotten how. So maybe it's just her.

But I was fooled. She could be girlishly silly at times. But physically there was nothing at all adolescent or girlish about her -- she was definitely a woman, period.

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She sounds charming and lovely

I'v been married for a long time so minus some silly flirtations here with the MC ladies I don't use any of the social media...hell, I'm terribly boring anyway😆!


But yes, Teri Garr is hot stuff and good for that pilot lady, she seems very impressive

* sorry, I had to edit, my phone is dying and I'm a cheap dude!

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Oh, I was smitten! Obviously. What made it even "worse" was that a small, two seat plane is narrower than a car. There's simply no way for two people to sit in such a plane without sometimes coming into physical contact. So there we were, day after day, at 3500 feet altitude, while I was hearing her voice, smelling her perfume, occasionally feeling her skin as our arms brushed together ...

I've gotta stop now. I have to stop or I'll never get any sleep tonight.

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I'm afraid of heights but flying class from a Lady like that would likely make me proceed with the lessons:)

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Pop music is becoming homogenized. I've listened to some of the foreign-language music channels offered by my TV satellite provider. The song structure and instrumentation are virtually identical to something you would hear in the U.S. Only the language is different. There's a local shop owned by people from Vietnam who always have music playing when I go in. If it weren't for the Vietnamese language I would not be able to guess where the music originated from.

I hope this pop music never replaces traditional local music forms. It would be pretty dull if everyone on the planet listened to the same style of music.

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Yes, it's sad, as I'm one who loves world music, but by the 80s, it all sounded the same. There's always been a few trite bands who copy (Russian rock and roll bands in the 70s sounded like shit, too), but I have a lot of Japanese Jazz, which has a similar form, but they have traditional instruments (bamboo flutes), or Middle-Eastern music that was unique, but now all sounds the same. One computer generated drum machine on a loop, a silly keyboard loop, and someone singing on top of it via auto-tune (you don't even need talent anymore). When MTV took over, it became about sex, instead of music.

I'd check out 70s prog rock for something different

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Lots of Irish music in the bars here in New York...
Black 47, Shilelagh Law and The Wolfe Tones, etc.

Irish music really lifts up the spirits and gets the crowd drinking (I quit the bar scene many years ago but I do miss the music)

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