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Myers is interested in Laurie because she appears to be a babysitter like his sister. He's looking to punish irresponsible, negligent babysitters (again, like his sister). That's why he becomes more interested in Annie, as she appears to be more mischievous. He ends up killing Annie because she ditched Lindsey with Laurie instead of looking after her.
When Linda and Bob come over they start making out on the couch and get it on upstairs in the bedroom, taking advantage of Annie's negligence and reminding Myers of his sister and her boyfriend, so he decides to kill them, too (notice he approaches Linda in a disguise/costume like he did with his sister).
When Laurie comes over, she has left the children unattended, and so Myers decides to punish her, too. One of the reasons she survives is because at heart she actually is a good, responsible sitter.
(This bit might just be a coincidence, but I find it funny that after Laurie stabs Myers in the closet, she sends the kids away to get help, and then Myers *immediately* springs back to life to choke her, lol!)
In general, a lot of the crazy rumors were all extensions of things seen in Episode I or general Star Wars lore. As it got closer to release there actually seemed to be less rumors in spite of the intrigue around new characters like Jango Fett and Count Dooku.
I think a part of that was because in the end, there simply WASN'T anything big to spoil: Jango Fett being Boba Fett's father wasn't a secret (though I think Boba Fett being a clone was something new), and while we weren't sure that Count Dooku was working directly for Darth Sidious, it wasn't particularly earth-shattering, either, and neither was Anakin and Padme getting married (a lot of the advertising centered around their FORBIDDEN relationship, so a secret wedding at the end wasn't necessarily a big surprise).
LMAO I had to google "supershadow" and apparently this is what's left of their website:
https://prequelrumors.tripod.com/soguco.html
I actually don't remember too many specific rumors in the time just before release (at least ones that weren't obviously made-up). There were actually more Episode II rumors before Episode I's release, believe it or not! I think it's mostly because after Episode I we were kind of able to tell most of the "big" stuff was going to happen in Episode III and that Episode II was mostly setup. But let's see what I can recall...
1. In 1999 there was a pretty widespread rumor that Episode II would be called "Rise of the Empire" and Episode III would be called "Fall of the Jedi."
2. A LOT of (really dumb) speculation that Leonardo Dicaprio was going to be cast as Anakin. Everyone seemed to agree this was dumb and unlikely and yet the rumor just wouldn't die.
3. As Episode I ended with the Gungan leader shouting "Peace!", Episode II would begin with him shouting "War!"
4. It was generally expected that Episode II would be "the one about the Clone Wars," to the point where some folks more or less expected it to be titled "Star Wars: Episode II - The Clone Wars." This wasn't completely wrong, but I think the impression most people had was that the war would've started near the beginning of the film, or perhaps would already be in progress.
5. Early on (say, in the first year or so after Episode I came out) there was some speculation that Anakin would become Darth Vader or at least have turned evil by the end of the film, but as we got closer to release the more everyone seemed to accept that was going to be saved for Episode III.
6. There was a lot of disgruntled musing about possible outrageous plot twists involving midichlorians or Jar Jar, including one rumor that Jar Jar would be found to have a high midichlorian count and subsequently start his Jedi training.
7. About the only thing that I think was a genuine leak was that we would see the plans for the Death Star (though most assumed it was more than just the cameo).
8. Another one that emerged shortly after Episode I: Darth Maul would return as a clone. Because, you know, Clone Wars.
No, David doesn't know. (Or at least, nobody has told him; he probably has his suspicions).
In the tunnel to the Genesis cave, Kirk asks Carol (very quietly): "Why didn't you tell him?"
Carol doesn't deny it: "How can you ask that? Were we together? Were we going to be? You had your world, and I had mine, and I wanted him in mine. Not chasing through the universe with his father."
As silly as it sounds, I really do think the whole "odd numbered curse" fan meme is mostly responsible for this one's reputation, which I swear just seems to get worse and worse with each passing year.
Star Trek III was a big hit and got great reviews. Not everyone loved it, (Ronald Reagan and Billy Idol notoriously made their displeasure public for instance, lol) but it was also very much a common occurrence back in the 80s for Star Trek III to be someone's favorite.
And then Star Trek V came out and someone came up with their cute "odd numbered Star Trek movie curse" idea and it took off and since then it's just been common wisdom that Star Trek III was one of "the bad ones." It's pretty lame!
I know this post was years ago, but responding for posterity: almost certainly a producer based in the US or UK who was familiar with the material in one way or another decided to put an adaptation into production and submitted the script to various talent agencies, who would then pitch the script to appropriate actors they represented.
There are a couple things happening here. First off is that Taylor doesn't challenge Dr. Zaius's assertion that it's a deep secret part of ape lore that man had made a desert of the Forbidden Zone, so it seems Taylor accepts that there's likely at least a kernel of truth to it. Zaius's words still leave it vague enough that he still doesn't know how or why the Forbidden Zone was ruined, so it's all still just an abstract concept for him.
Second is that this whole time Taylor's been running on the assumption that he's not on Earth, which itself means a couple things: while these humans are humans, they're not from Earth, they're not "his" humans. Also, if humanity developed on multiple planets, it likely meant that humanity was more or less inevitable on any planet that breeds life long enough - there could be countless civilizations all over the universe, what does it matter if some of them destroyed themselves as long as most of them survived?
Then Taylor finds the Statue of Liberty. Suddenly:
(1) this is no longer abstract history, it's very, very real for him,
(2) the statue being blown in half was probably not the result of an environmental catastrophe but something much more direct,
(3) when Taylor left Earth the threat of nuclear war was a hot topic, which was definitely something that could result in wiping out civilization and blowing the Statue of Liberty in half,
(4) this was not just some "other" planet's humans, these were specifically "his" humans,
(5) there is no longer any reason to believe humans developed on any other planet (in fact, the more he thinks about it, the sillier that whole idea probably seems to him). This was it. Humans had their shot, and they blew it.
As for why this angers him so much, it's because through this whole ordeal with the apes Taylor had finally learned to appreciate humanity. Then he discovers humanity let him down, and for the exact reasons he'd previously become such a cynical cold-hearted jerk in the first place.
I hate every ape I see
From chimpan-A to chimpan-Z
This is the one part of the movie that really puzzled me, especially because the last shot cuts away so abruptly. But yeah, my guess is also that Lise's body has vanished.
Why or how I have no idea, but as far as themes go I suppose you could read it as though without the body no one can prove that the man killed her, and that this is perhaps appropriate because it was Lise herself who was the "real" killer in this situation.