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If it wasn't connected to the Joker or DC, it wouldn't be a movie. Dumb-ass argument.
Is it hard, to type while you have Disney's balls in your mouth? You're getting hard by counting somebody's money. Congratulations. Pat yourself on the back.
I know people really like to dismiss Lieber's contribution to the creation of the many Marvel characters, and in some cases they have a point, but in this case you are the one who is severely mistaken. First, Stan Lee came up with everything about Spider-Man. From the name, to powers, to origin. Ditok visualized his ideas, but he did not create them himself. It was Stan who wanted to make an ordinary kid into a superhero. Second, Jack Kirby had absolutely nothing to do with Spider-Man. In fact, there are barely any drawings of Spider-Man done by him.
TASM sucked big fat dick, Andre. The OG trilogy with Tobey Maguire was the most accurate depiction of Spider-Man in live-action. You know that it's a fact, schmuck. The same way Christian Bale is the best Batman in live-action.
She can't be an accurate representation of the comic character if she acts like the exact opposite of her comic counterpart. If she was meant to be Gwen Stacy, then yeah, no real big change here outside of race-swapping. The UU Gwen was a bad girl and a bully when she first appeared. So that would fit. But MJ has never been that. MJ has always been a kind soul that respects Peter. Zendaya's MJ mocks Peter and even gives him a finger at one point. She should be hooking up with Flash instead of Peter, since she bullies Peter just like him. That's not MJ. I love how almost everyone shits on Dunst's MJ, calling her a horrible person and a horrible representation of MJ, but then they praise this crap. Dunst's MJ actually stood up for Peter when he was being bullied. That alone makes her more likable and MJ-like than Zendaya.
"but I'd argue that Zendaya's MJ is a very accurate representation of the comic book character."
Comic book Mary Jane would never bully Peter or make fun of him. She literally showed him a finger in one of the scenes from Homecoming.
No, she's the opposite of MJ. This godawful version of MJ bullies Peter and acts like an annoying brat. And she's not popular. Nothing like MJ of the comics.
He's half-British, half-American.
"A poorly made film would fail at the box office,"
Iron Man 2 was a poorly made film. (Mickey Rourke hated working on that film. Jon F. was disappointed with it as well.) It didn't fail at the box office. Thor 2 was a poorly made film. (Almost every person who worked on that film hated working on it. The director said working on that film was wrenching. Christopher E. hated working on it. Hemsworth said it was "meh".) It didn't fail, either. Age of Ultron was a poorly made film. (It was the reason why Whedon left the MCU. He hated working on that film.) It made only on 100 million less than the original Avengers.
"In fact, had Captain Marvel not been a well-made film, not only would it have flopped, its lack of quality would have decreased interest in Endgame, and chipped away at that film's box office potential. In other words, you have it backwards."
Nah. The Avengers didn't fail because the three movies that preceded it didn't hit a high mark. The hype is bigger than quality. Endgame will gain money because it's Endgame. It's Captain Marvel who will benefit from the Endgame, not the other way.
"Marvel made yet another great film,"
Nope.
"and its box office speaks to that."
Blade Runner 2049 didn't make any profit. I suppose its box office speaks for how bad it was.
"The end result was even if you feel CM was a less than mediocre movie"
I'd say it's even below that.
"Marvel had every intention of putting out a crowd pleaser."
Like they did with Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World?
"There was so much more to gain by doing that than by consciously pushing out a turd."
Which is why they pushed a turd on us.
"Meanwhile CM might still get an Avengers:Endgame bump."
Very nice. Disney becomes even richer. I can't be happier.
"There would be no reason for that to happen if the movie was indeed as terrible or as off putting as some say or think."
Yeah, sure, pal/ma'am.
"If that were indeed the case, if Marvel was arrogant enough and foolish enough to do exactly what you said Marvel would have instantly killed Avengers:Endgame."
I highly doubt that. MCU didn't kill The Avengers because three movies preceding it were either average or mediocre. The power of the brand is stronger than the power of quality (or lack of thereof).
"There would have been zero interest and the backlash against Marvel would have been unprecedented for tricking their audience that blatantly."
I highly doubt that. People still value MCU as their bred and butter, as their reason to live, despite MCU releasing a lot of mediocre or straight up bad movies throughout their coarse.
"I know it's fun to say what you typed but the reality is much different than what you typed."
No, it's not fun, because it proves that the MCU is in such a position, anything they will do, no matter how mediocre and bad, guarantees success.
"Marvel would not be able to get away with that even one time. Audiences are just not that naïve."
Uh-huh. Iron Man 3. A movie with a poop joke in it. And guess what? It made 1.2 billion. So there goes my point. It's sad, and yes, I'm right on that.
"BvS and Justice League are prime examples of that."
BvS and Justice League were not part of the brand that cemented its existence over the coarse of ten years by appealing to everyone and having a consistent tone.
"Why would Marvel even risk that?"
Because they know the power of their brand will prevail. Like I said, Iron Man 3 proved it. That movie mocked its own audience. Still made 1.2 billion.
Considering that Endgame will outgross Avatar, you could've put a two hour film about a turd before it, and say that it's connected to Endgame, and it would make a billion.
"Your idea of a good movie is Batman?!?!?!?!"
Batman is a character. Last time I checked, you can make a good movie out of any character. Which Nolan did make.
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH what a fucking moron you are. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH"
The Dark Knight is obviously one of the greatest movies ever made. Hitchcock would've loved it if he saw it.
You left three replies at once, but you didn't bother to connect them. What does Satantango have to do with Nolan?
If Hitchcock was alive to see The Dark Knight or Dunkirk, he would probably compliment them for being brilliant exercises in story-building and tension.
Well, yes, I do know of directors like Hitchcock. I saw The Birds on TV when I was probably 5 or 6. One of my all-time favorite films. Funny enough, Nolan cites Htchcock as one of his greatest influences. So not sure why you're being angry, angry one.
His movies are great. I'm glad that aeteurs like him are still capable of making mainstream movies that don't pander to current filmmaking trends and don't try to fit into the same set of rules. Very refreshing. Interstellar and The Dark Knight Rises are masterpieces of their genres.
His movies are great. That's what matters.
He's not Jewish.
I was joking, but okay.