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No, I agree with him because he has a functioning brain. I don't set a high standard for agreeing with people.
LOL. You can't debate stupidity, we were wrong trying to do that.
It's been awhile since I've been on this site. Re-reading this thread was fun. You're an idiot.
Which film are you talking about? Neither the manga nor the 1995 animated film (and its sequel) revealed anything about her childhood. We were only given her background story in SAC, and as I said, her childhood friend in that series is the one on which the live-action movie is based on.
I'm really not gonna read all that. As I said, it's better if you put it point by point. Like this:
<blockquote>What the MCU shows us of Captain America prior to The Avengers is irrelevant to this issue. All that matters is what it shows after he meets Thor.</blockquote>
See this? This is you basically saying that you don't care about what MCU didn't show (Roger being a Christian), only what MCU didn't show after a point in time (Roger never scolding his friend for claiming to be a God [which is funny enough, he never actually proclaim to be a god])... Can you really not hear how stupid you are?
You could just say you don't have any argument? Like, who's going to believe that you actually expect an apology from an internet forum. Even the 12 years old playing the COD online know that. Wow, dude, that's embarrassing...
Cool.
I already told you why I called you a homophobe; whether or not you think it's wrong is up to you, but you haven't answered the single most simple question I asked you since the beginning; let's face it, you don't have an answer, do you? That's how a homophobe acts, with anger but no substance.
WHAT EXACTLY PART OF THE FILM WAS AFFECTED BY THE FACT THAT BENOIT IS GAY? AND HOW DO YOU THINK THE STORY SHOULD'VE BEEN IF HE'S STRAIGHT?
Let's be honest here; you're not gonna answer that. Maybe some name-calling here and there, accusing others of problems you invent, meh. It's not like there is anything but hatred toward homosexuality in that head of yours.
Retconning would imply that he was straight before, but the previous movie has never indicated his sexual preference.
And you still haven't told us what's changed with the story with him being gay. I would appreciate you didn't change the subject too much.
And you've been called a homophobe because you're displaying extreme rage against a movie that displays homosexuality, not even in a relationship (like two men share a kiss), just implying it; it already made you this angry.
Putting aside your being a homophobe, how's Benoit being gay did affect the movie? And how the movie should've been if he was straight?
Wasn't you mentioning this also meant you checked off a box?
That's called a typo, asshole. When someone can't win an argument, they start attacking something else; you know that?
And what the hell does the fact that he SAW thor the first time do anything with his belief? He already knows the guy exists.
<blockquote>I don't know whether or not Captain America had been briefed about Asgardians prior to that point and neither do you because the movie doesn't show him being briefed about Asgardians or mention that he was.</blockquote>
That's called common sense, idiot. Is he going to escort somebody without being briefed? Are you really that dense? The fact that the black widow already knew it is evident.
Again, how is that the first time he saw him affect his belief? It's the other way around, asshole. You put somebody you never met on pedestal, but instead getting let down by the real thing.
How is Roger see someone flying around with a combination of magic and technology suddenly making him think "Oh, I was wrong, You're a God, please bless me." Roger was not as stupid and as gullible as you.
<blockquote>Captain America never made a single expression of religious faith again at any later point in the MCU.</blockquote>
And he never made one before, you idiot. There is a whole movie about him before Avengers, ever saw him go to church?
<blockquote>The fact that no one in the MCU expressed any faith in monotheism after that point prior to the Ms. Marvel show speaks enormous volumes.</blockquote>
And on which previous Marvel movie did you see our main characters go to midnight mass? You're making correlation out of shits you pull out of your ass. The only way to prove your point is by pointing out human beings worshiping Thor as gods, which doesn't exist in MCU. Now you're trying to make a point by saying, "if nobody is saying otherwise, then the opposite is true", a mega idiot.
<blockquote>It would at most prove that Captain America did not personally believe at that time that Thor was a god.</blockquote>
How do YOU KNOW that it's the first time he heard about Thor. YOU DON'T THINK he's been briefed about Asgardians? Because he was guarding Loki at the time? Wow, you're stubborn.
And how the f do you know that Cap know think of thor as God? Are you seriously that stupid?
That was a definite evident that shows someone can think of them not as gods, and your rebuttal is "Nah, I don't think so."???
You're talking in a circle now, keep saying the same thing over and over don't make it right. I'd rather do a point by point argument. But of course, you prefer a wall of text to blur your argument with volume.
The one piece of evidence that has been told to you before that you keep evading is in the first Avengers. Before Captain America jump out of the plane, Black Widow told her that Thor is "basically" god, and cap easily said "There is only one God, mam. And I'm sure He doesn't dress like that."
So you see, people in MCU CAN actually think for themselves; they don't need you to teach them about their religion.
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Asgardians
Read that wiki to educate yourself that Asgardian is an alien race. The ancient Norse worship them as gods, but they are never gods.
Does his being gay or straight affect the movie in any way?
Kinda? Depends on what you mean by woke. Does it have a diverse cast in a movie that would work with all white cast? Yes. Does it promote any far-left policies about minorities, sexual identity, white power, etc? No.
Why would a movie with a diverse cast be considered woke? I don't think it is, the same way I think any hallmark movie with all white cast is not a racist movie.
It's kinda stupid to judge a movie by whether or not a character is a black pansexual, or not.
<blockquote>I'm not "dictating" how religious people should think. I'm explaining how people would actually think if they actually were religious.</blockquote>
Wow... how the f can somebody refute themselves within two sentences.
You're reaching way too far in the sense that you think the Muslims are so traditional and dimwit that they can't imagine a strong being is not a deity. My comparison is to show you that in the time period of Jesus, an existence like an Ironman would definitely be seen as a deity because they don't know anything. Even an existence like Thor is no different than dr. Strange or Captain Marvel, who is just a very strong being with an unconventional source of power. And you think that all Muslims are incapable of wrapping their head around that idea? Fuck you.
<blockquote>You start with the assumption that Khan is a Muslim and therefore you conclude that she is certain that Thor is not a god. But there is zero evidence of that certainty.</blockquote>
No, you're the one who started with the assumption that Kamala thought Thor was a god. Where is YOUR evidence?
<blockquote>On the show she is never actually shown to deny the fact that Thor is a god</blockquote>
And she never acknowledges it. Again your without-any-evidences assumption.
<blockquote>Your logic is working backwards</blockquote>
Oh, the irony.
That's reaching way too far, dude. No technology after middle age can be explained by religion. Are you saying all religious people should reject technology? Otherwise, it became an "insult to the intelligence and self-respect" of all religious people. Seriously? Who are you to dictate how religious people should think? Especially about religion you barely know about.
Or am I wrong? Maybe your religion has an expanded part that explains thermonuclear, gravity wave, and quantum theory.
Kamala Khan DEFINITELY doesn't consider Thor a God, just like how I, a Muslim, DEFINITELY don't consider other religions relevant. But it doesn't stop me from saying Merry Christmas to those who celebrate.
That's a weird take on the situation. That's like saying that because Christianity says homosexuality is a sin so all Christians should reject and punish LGBTQ, which some Christians did, but not all of them. Are you saying that all those who didn't are not Christians?
I'm a Muslim, and one of my favorite films is The Man from Earth. The movie basically refutes religions, but I don't care because I know the movie is not anti-religion; it's just an aspect of the premise, which is one of the greatest premises I've ever watched.
Like many people already mentioned, she probably simply doesn't consider those beings gods. And she's a fan of CM, anyway.
I don't really care about the politic of Hollywood, if they want to promote this as the first Muslim superhero, yeah go ahead. I don't enjoy the series anyway, the pacing is too slow for me in the beginning, and none of the characters catch my attention.
Cool, the the same with holocaust I guess, it was to save the German people from the claw of the greedy evil Jews.