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I'm willing to accept a flash storm, the same way I'm willing to accept a ZA.
I'm just glad we have new scenery and new, unique challenges (which come with extreme weather...when you don't have the creature comforts of the modern world, like generators, weather forecasts, furnaces, fuel, vehicles, etc...).
Hmmm, I forgot about that one. But I could have sworn there was one even earlier in the series, maybe the first time we ever got a hint of a radio broadcast. I'm pretty sure it was Rick and either Shane or Daryl, driving in a car. But I might just be conflating a couple different scenes in my head.
I think sometimes we just need to forgive some of the inconsistencies. Write them off in whatever fashion you need to. Maybe some of the "weaker", more fragile walkers froze like statues....while others (perhaps insulated in the snow, or for whatever reason are fresher and more robust), were able to avoid freezing solid.
I hope they get around to showing a flashback of Negan’s past life, pre-ZA. Kinda like the one brief scene they did, showing Michone’s home life with family, as a lawyer, pre-ZA. It would be great to find out Negan was something like a school teacher or pediatrician. Can you imagine a scene with Negan up at the chalkboard, calling on a kid to answer a question. She gets the answer right, and he does that trademark move, where he leans back, cocks his head and flashes a grin before saying something. In this case, he'd say something nice to the student about her answer. They REALLY need to address his backstory.
Agreed. If TWD producers and writers just had mindless action and zombie gore, episode after episode...it would have gotten tired after just one season. Like it or not, people...this show is about the characters, and how they interact when faced with a ZA. I loved the finale. As stated elsewhere, it was hauntingly beautiful in how it was shot. And a handful of scenes (like Negan rescuing Judith and Dog) made the whole episode pay off for me. Another (very underrated) scene....was when the group came upon the 3 shadowy figures in the blizzard, and realized they were 3 walkers who froze where they stood, like frozen ghosts. Just how that 3 minute scene was shot....I thought was brilliant. You can't throw a Hail Mary every play. Some plays....you're just running up the middle for a 2 yard gain. But they are important yards, in the grander scheme of things.
I agree, the whole show is ultimately Rick's story first and foremost. And for it to have a proper conclusion, Rick needs to have SOME kind of return. (And I'd be SHOCKED if all involved didn't find a way to make that happen). Hey, they got Shane back for a cameo. They brought Hershel back, etc...
This show likes to break the rules, and keep you off balance. I'm intrigued about the whole idea of teasing that the radio voice was Rick's. Hadn't thought of that. I'm not sure we're ready, just yet, for hints of Rick. But....yeah, that would have been pretty awesome.
As a whole, I liked the finale. It was beautifully shot. Hauntingly beautiful. And as heavy as the previous episode was, the slightly light and uplifting end (w/ the snowball fight) was a nice touch.
Kudos to Angela Kang....for finally getting winter scenes approved, BTW.
Now, could you just IMAGINE....if animals could be affected? How intense would it be....if we see characters walking down the road, and a pack of feral (infected) dogs came toward them! New layers of danager to deal with.
It will be interesting. TWD has always been a show that breaks the rules. Were we ready to see a horse get devoured by walkers? No, but it happened. Were we ready to see a child become a walker, and get taken down as a result? No, but it happened. Were we ready to see the most beloved character...get pulverized by Lucielle? No, but it happened.
I don't think Negan SHOULD ever get a reprieve for what he did--it was unredeemable. However, I love that the show will break the rules once again....and try. Because we WILL have mixed feelings about it. TWD keeps you off balance, questioning things...and getting angry, constantly. You can't get comfortable for long, because something new will throw you off.
Negan (and the actor, JDM)....is very charismatic....almost, dare I say, likeable. So we have this dichotomy at play, which I think is great for the show. It would be one thing if things were black and white.....Negan wore the black hat, twisted his mustache and had a sinister laugh. We'd know he was the bad guy, and that's that. However....similar to how Die Hard mastered the concept of....the likeable villain, I think that is in play here as well. Like it or not, you're gonna start finding a soft spot for ol' Negan here and there. Besides, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
There will be some VERY interesting dynamics with all of this....especially when it comes to Michonne, Maggie and Rosita.
But that's part of why TWD is still a great show. Anything can happen.
There's definitely a lot of loss on the show. But it's also about triumph of the human spirit. One of my favorite scenes in the last episode was Siddiq's speech at the end. IMO....the tragedies on the show are done with an artful and respectful touch. You'd think a show like TWD would be run by people who just get off on the gore, but watching Scott Gimple or Angela Kang on Talking Dead, they seem....intellectual, thoughtful of the subject matter, artful in their approach, and respectful of the characters (and their fates). They're also respectful of the audience. I know there are many who would argue with me on this, but it's just my opinion. After hearing Scott G on the last Talking Dead, it really gave me a different perspective on that last episode, and on the tragedies on that show in general.
But yes, ultimately....it's every bit as much about finding humanity, and strength....in the midst of constant tragedy. It must be (somewhat) like being in a war zone. Even though death could happen at any moment....and even though you're surrounded by it, surrounded by savagery, you have to find enough strength in your heart to push on and stand up for what you believe in. Siddiq's speech was crucial to that last episode. It really made verything else work for me, even though I will really miss Enid and Tara.
Speaking of artful, there's something extra forboding and "chilling" about the blizzard rolling in next week on the show. Scott G said he had been trying to get snow on the show forever. Now that they are finally doing "winter" scenes, it looks pretty haunting and awesome.
It's interesting....I didn't notice Murtaugh at the jail the first time I watched that episode either. Upon a repeat viewing, he is indeed there, but barely recognizable, and in bad shape. I'm glad I re-watched that timeframe of the show, because I wasn't sure how Jamie and Murtaugh parted ways for so long. Now it makes more sense.
Jamie pulled some strings to get Murtaugh some much needed medical care at the prison, and John Grey obliged. In the episode where Murtaugh sees Jamie at Fraser's Ridge and is rude to him, Jamie reminds him that Grey extended extra care to him, and probably saved his life.
It's interesting....because if the "creatures" wished physical ill will on people.....then it would be quite easy to pick them off, because they can't see. Example, Malorie is virtually helpless, blindfolded on that river. Also, when she's walking through the woods with her kids. And it seems the creatures DO seem to wish ill will on people, per all the suicides. So, if they do wish harm on people....and they're physical beings, why don't they "attack" helpless people physically?
And then there's this: At least once, maybe twice....it seemed like the "experience" between entity and victim was "personal", and tailored to that individual victim. Example...the wife of John Malkovich's character looked at the entity and envisioned her mother. Plus, (if memory serves) when Malorie is looking for the kids in the woods, there are voices (which mimic her kids?) The writers don't do much to expound on that premise.
The writing is either really sloppy....or really clever. Clever, because sometimes ambiguity and our own imaginations are a better story than being spoon-fed.
Seriously? THAT is what you chose to key-in on? The specificity and accuracy of the (example) age of 12? You’re missing the point, altogether. Ok...how about a scene with Apollo talking to his NEWBORN son? Or...a scene with Apollo talking with Rocky about wanting to be a better father to his son than his dad was with him? How about a scene where Rocky is sitting alone in that restaurant of his, all sad and depressed...and has a flashback/memory of a talk he had with Apollo after Mickey’s funeral, where Apollo calls him the only real friend he’s ever had. How about a scene where Rocky’s looking at one of those pictures on the wall that Drago pointed out, a picture of Apollo...and that leads to a flashback of Apollo training him...giving him a pep talk. The kind of pep talk he so badly needs now, as a lonely old man. How about a scene.......(you get it yet?) Use your imagination. Quit focusing on the specificity of one arbitrary example.
You're kind of missing the point.
Carl Weathers has aged extremely well. With a little digital movie magic, they could make him look like the Apollo Creed we knew in the early Rocky films....at least for a brief cameo scene. Whether that scene were....a "lost scene" showing Apollo saying or doing something in the past (like talking to the 12 year old version of Adonis)....or, perhaps it's just a faint glimpse of his "presence" in the crowd, there are things they could have done.
If they can bring Carrie Fisher back, and create a 1978 version of her for that recent Star Wars spinoff movie, they can young-up Carl Weathers if needed. So...the cameo wouldn't be a scene in which a dead Apollo comes back to life at age 70. It would be a "scene from the past". Use your imagination.
They must mended fences recently, because there is (some) Apollo footage and images in Creed II. (Sorry if any spoilers). And, after doing some Googling, they did appear together at an awards show a couple years back, looking cordial to each other. It's too bad they couldn't come to agreeable terms for Weathers to make some sort of cameo in Creed II. Be it a flashback....or (corny as it sounds)....an image of him in the stands, willing Adonis to get up, when he was on the mat. I remember when they did a flashback scene with Mickey a few movies back, and it had a great effect. It felt like a "lost scene" between Rocky and Mickey.