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Same reason the kids in the Peanuts cartoon were laughing. Because they didn't understand it.
Not sure who the self could be that might have been indulged here. Maybe Sioban, alone, was spared. That's hardly indulged, as it's the result of her own wit and efforts.
Apparently few can recognize the archetype of the very self-destructive yet top notch musician.
I agree with your descriptions of what's happening. A story of what kind, though? I was hoping for a story about an actual friendship, like the trailer said. But no, this wasn't just a psychological horror, and thankfully it held back from literal horror style, but it was dark trip into the caverns of abnormal psychology, with an archetypal flavour. Celtic myths and histories must be full of archetypes, but I dk them. It was a dark psychoanalysis of sadism and masochism, of the drive to unique and eternal excellence versus dead average middle of the road lowest of the brows mentality. Less literally, most people have a slothful side and also an ambitious or big-dreaming side. And often they are in conflict and no one wins, as here.
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It was like that flashback to when she worked in a publishing office. Wonderful writing, but - I dk it just doesn't grab me. It's soft. But if it had been written by a man, the very same words, it would be an earthshatteringly new way of writing. The double standards are real. Yes, there were successful women writers, but a small proportion, not 50-50.
Too bad she "fell in love" with the prof. He was super cringe. And maybe she was worse, because it seems it was her idea. I'm sure there are many more sick and twisted relationships out there - like the SCOTUS Thomases.
I imagined her telling herself that, oh, well, she knew he was like this given he cheated on his previous wife, with Joan when she was young. "This is how men are; let's try to work around it" seems to be the theme of these women in this film. I've certainly heard messages like that, given I'm 60, now. Even now I hear people who believe men and women are, by nature, the things we know as stereotypes. Averages aren't identities.
I distinctly remember them jumping on the bed saying "We just won the Nobel Prize." Very different meaning and has the feel that they are in on a joke together.
As for the selflessness, women have been generally trained to be this way in the past, and even in more recent times it shows up when you'd think these women are liberated. Technically, yes, psycho-culturally, no.
Thank you. I seem to remember a comment within the movie that the Germans were surrounded in their location in Berlin. So then it makes sense they would have to pass through enemy lines. Somehow I thought there had been a liberation, ie that the Russians were gone. Found bits of it hard to follow, probably because I was reading subtitles throughout.
They work great, even if you don't understand German. I enjoyed them before I ever watched this movie. I don't watch war movies. This was an exception to that pattern. The meme isn't more or less funny after knowing the exact context and words from the movie.
The new ones, relating to Ukraine, are great, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKjGS0r8yGU
Since you know that part was authentic, do you happen to know if the instant-death crunch-pills were real? It's strange, as they look like metal but make a crunch sound like candy and then death comes within seconds, it seems. Didn't come across as believable, but I know nothing about such things. I'm curious.
Thanks for the correction. I'm Canadian and not too up on this history.
Those scenes of Issi dusting and cleaning that super-luxury home, surrounded by 5k pounds in many shots, not like in my house, really underscored that extreme disparity and the injustice of it. The employer didn't even ask how much she stole or for what. She liked having her around, she said, but she didn't get to know her as a human being, to ask why she did this. Of course habitual criminals have good bullshit stories, but presumably you check out your cleaner's history if they are going to work when you aren't there. She should have found out how much and why, and maybe given her another chance.
In one of the various versions of his flashback, I saw a man lying on the ground, motionless, and a good sized pool of blood from his side. 6 years sounds like murder to me, not just stabbing, but them I'm used to Canadian courts and sentences, not UK. I don't think he'd have qualms with lying to the woman, given his many other shitty behaviours.
Yeah, I hated the ending, wasn't even sure that's what happened. Why the heck would he open the door - and with a knife? Madness. Make more sense to call 911 or whatever number it is over there.
Food is not love, despite what people perceive. In this film, it's often manipulation. He's a child and you call him an obnoxious little creep. Interesting.
Damn, you nailed it. He was a bit of a jerk as a teenager, but... that's normal. His parents weren't emotionally connected to him, and from what I saw (skipped through a lot of the middle depressing parts) I doubt they or Ms. Potter would have accepted his homosexuality, so wtf, might as well run off to London and follow your dream now you are free.
No, no one can MAKE someone eat something. He was a glutton, obviously. He managed to be fat even on the horror food of the boy's mother.
"You did this" to me suggested brought the family to this rural outpost where the boy was unhappy and, apparently, garden services aren't like in town. Or maybe he was meanly blaming her for the death. Anyway, he's 17, and I am pretty sure I would have been much, much nastier at that age. It was very English and restrained nastiness.
I'm glad he escaped her and that place.
Yeah, it was important to show his interest in being whoever he wanted to be. Nothing disgusting about a kiss. It was done honestly, and obviously the younger man wanted it, as he responded in kind. It's just a kiss.
I guess you just thought he was amused by the gardener's bare bottom, earlier. A straight boy would have looked just like that at a woman undressing. I saw it pretty clearly, though it wasn't absolutely certain. The fact the other kids bullied him as a poof and that he wasn't girl crazy but rather gave the milk to the boy underscored that, yes, he's probably gay. Which is all part of the normal spectrum of humanity, in case you didn't know.
I wouldn't think a child would want to sit through the first depressing half, nor should a child (how young?) need to see the display of Ms. Potter's sexuality, the obvious sexual suggestions of her kneeling and quivering and her lovely legs. A kid would wonder wtf that is being shown. Maybe would laugh at it. But overall I wouldn't say it's a move a child would be interested in. Not a family movie, but a movie about a family's relationships.
Interesting way of looking at it. Yes, the classism was detestable, but to me that's just a British background detail. "Common" - in other countries, other categories would be used, but it's everywhere and it didn't stand out for me.
What stood out for me was that all his parents and wannabe parents were somewhat failures. They weren't emotionally connected to him, but again that's very common. The first half of the movie was depressing, with a sick mum and apparently useless and somewhat bullying father. The son was full of life but the parents couldn't support that, really. Hard to watch and I skipped through much of it.
But I wanted to see how it ended, and the ending was smashing. He got his freedom, away from the clutches of this woman who, as he saw it, took his father away from him from the start and dominated his life. Sure, she can cook, but she uses it to control people, as evidenced by the endless big dishes of food plunked down one after the other. And then she tried to do it again when his destiny moment opened before him. And he gloriously refused it, her, and the rural situation he wanted nothing to do with. "I"m your mother"? THe height of arrogance, another power trip. No wonder he gladly walked away to where he could have his own life without her cloying attitude. Helena did a good job of capturing this clueless yet manipulative woman.