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t, what would stop THOSE people from hurting others and proving that - "Dear God, psychopaths and evil people are just around the corner and that they exist in FAR larger numbers than many can even BEGIN to fathom."
Come to think of it, why can't LAWS be SAME EVERYWHERE on this planet, and how come even in AMERICAN States, one can get DIFFERENT sentences for SAME or SIMILAR misdeeds - what IS the secret to all of it, and do lawmakers like EVER think about "How civilized THEY are" compared to us simple Joe Schmoes, Joe Averages and John Smiths of the world?
And on totally DIFFERENT sides - OK, so by LAW one DOESN'T get jailed for doing something terrible, but the victim and their family thinks the person HAS done something terrible and deserves to be condemned for such actions? Should the victim and their family immediately FORGIVE the person and think it wasn't anything wrong? (Doesn't have to be TOO serious or damaging an offense like sexual violence, battery or even murder (well, obviously) for that matter, could be statutory r*pe, or inappropriately touching someone's bottom, or slapping someone in the face, or stealing someone's possession(s), or ACCIDENTALLY running them over and injuring them etc.) And what IF the victim and their family does NOT forgive them, should the person just disappear and stay away from them? What if victim starts seeking revenge or constantly shaming them in some or other ways - and would law be CORRECT to STOP them or even OTHER people and WHY?
Basically, IN ALL OF THIS TALK, who ultimately IS wrong and who is right and why/how, thanks.
Plus, there is an EVOLUTION of CONTROVERSIES surrounding the stance and existence of many legal issues, with people, correctly and not so much, often noticing how laws are NEVER 100% fair and for the best of everyone, and that they either OVER or UNDER react on certain issues, but even with the incredible common failures of the law, as well as the fact that it often makes with evidence life worse for the victims, NO ONE seems to want for laws to JUST disappear and allow vigilante justice to take place, and even when vigilante justice does happen in real life, it often involves, however rare it is by comparison to ACTUAL guilty people doing their horrid deeds AND getting away with it in real life, the WRONG people getting hurt and (sometimes) even killed in the process, and many people often look at THAT side of the issue as a separate however smaller problem, thinking along the lines of "But let's not forget how many ACTUAL offenders either get away with it or get very light sentences, again, by LAW" rather than something along the lines of, er, "Well, yes the original issue is a problem but as you can see, vigilante justice isn't the answer EITHER", and this even goes towards say films that are acclaimed and deal with issues along those lines (think of Thomas Vinterberg's acclaimed and controversial Danish drama "The Hunt" (2012) starring Mads Mikkelsen). (Of course, I am sadly often aware of the exact and COMMONLY opposite problem, like with sadly MANY people in the world thinking those original issues are "OK" and blame the victims, but I don't even consider those people rational human beings and wonder if we should just try and professionally ignore them and not give them ANY credit and publicity - although I sometimes wonder why myself, because I for one just CANNOT imagine ME having THEIR thoughts and mentalities - and do those people just don't CARE about the LAW and MORALITY and do they have NO empathy whatsoever, imagine what would happen if law DIDN'T exis
Yeah. (Except in "The Terminator", Arnie was back even after that guy to which he told the line to was telling the truth.)
I thought "Thriller: A Cruel Picture" was pretty good but Ms .45 was great - and one of Abel Ferrara's top 3 best along with "King of New York" and "Bad Lieutenant" (which Zoe Land also co-wrote the script for and co-starred in).
I'd love to hear Cassie Jaye herself attempt to answer all of that, maybe even write an essay on why "Life is not like an action movie, and good guys don't defeat evil bad guys and live happily ever after" and talk about how in life, there may always be exceptions even to the vast majority of incredibly COMMON patterns of injustices faced by humanity every day and talk about what we can or even SHOULD be able to do about it, plus about what types of emotions we must have in accordance to some or other issues, and avoid internet flame wars when discussing such matters on forums, no matter if its reddit, yahooanswers, ilovephilosophy.org or even HERE, but then again, humanity is arguably the same ANYWHERE, right?
Having said all this, just ignoring certain problems and not talking about it and letting "other people or parties handle it", even if it IS intended in the name of GOOD and JUSTICE, in real life, doesn't just make it all go away, right?
And it does seem like a LOT of people on this planet of over 8 BILLION people and thousands of years of human existence, well, there may be a LOT OF GOOD people but there are a lot of EVIL ones as well, and fact of the matter is, you could never QUITE tell who is who, right, so erring on the side of caution is a must, right?
So in a nutshell, the movie is basically like an anti-thesis of a typically revenge centered genre film where good guys avenge bad deeds and punish the bad guys, and in this case, the avenger isn't black and white simply good and the bad guys don't get punished at the end?
Also, with regards to the final part, is the movie intended to say that for the most part, it is indeed men who are bastards, bad people, and that they are like that primarily MERELY by BEING men, so women are likely and far more likely to be innocent, and very sadly often victims, by nature and by being women?
I know men in generally are more responsible for most crimes and problems in the world and I'm also aware that naturally men are stronger than women and tend to crave far more often for power?
On the other hand - what if women, and sometimes men, attempted more often to fight back and take vengeance against powerful and otherwise men that wronged them, often sexually but can be in other ways too, in real life like we often see in traditional revenge-themed movies, and the law just happened, ANYWHERE, to be lenient towards it if not outright praiseworthy, would it ACTUALLY make the world a better place?
Granted, those original traditional wrongs happen all the time and is a massive ongoing world problem, but would violent counter reaction to it if realized help or create MORE problems without much potential for eradicating ORIGINAL issues EITHER? Anyone know or think they know? Thanks.
I didn't see no "porno" inserts here, maybe you confused it with "Thriller: A Cruel Picture" (1974)?
So real then, right?
In that way, was the movie intended to be anti-vigilantism and even showed how sometimes seemingly justified acts of revenge can indeed go wrong, even if the original crime done against the victm IS indeed a worse deed and a more serious problem for the world?
Basically, is the movie saying that yes rape and sexual violence is a serious issue and obviously seriously wrong, but revenge and vigilantism isn't the answer EITHER? Especially as it shows that innocent people CAN end up getting killed in the process - and its not a happy and appropriate solution in the end?
I still consider this a great film and an exploitation classic, but do you think it HAS that type of message to it and something to say in (that sort of) way?
True, but some of the men she killed didn't do anything bad to her and possibly didn't do anything too bad at all, at least in the original "I Spit on Your Grave" (1978), the victimized woman there attacked and killed the men who violated her but in this case, not to mean to look too much into what is otherwise just a fictional movie, but the parents and relatives of those innocent men in this movie would probably still condemn her were they to find out she killed them.
But I guess its one of those factors that makes her a complex character and what makes this film so interesting and fascinating, but many people see murder (especially to those who are innocent) to be just as bad.
Yeah, maybe.
n, getting a family, getting a driver's license etc and not think about total rubbish)? Heck, maybe police themselves would NOT be corrupt or racist, in America or ANYWHERE, and life would be in general like an action movie or a video game where good guys win and bad guys get it etc?
Cause sometimes I think, if we turned the situations around 180 degrees, would life ever be much more simple?
Or will humanity FOREVER crave for violence, selfishness, power, discrimination etc and therefore we will always need police, prisons, double standards and failures and internet flame wars themselves will go on forever and no we won't ever have simple divisions of good and evil just like that and humans will forever contemplate their own existence?
Come to think of it, if we had no laws and prisons existing as separate organizations and in ways that they do today, would we as human beings be able to form our own laws and rules and punish people that wrong or hurt us in any way, and woud it always or at least in general be ethical/just/correct/appropriate and for the best of everyone?
I mean, sometimes when I go online and I hear and witness these types of discussions on forum boards, not 5 minutes pass by until I see constant arguments, swearing, flame wars and people indulging, even if it is al justifiable, in some or other forms of hate speech, which may not even be remotely helpful in the long run, and WAY too many people have often very different opinions or stances on some or other things, with civilized people often claiming that it is a problem in and of itself (so why doesn't ordinary people in society want to get along?), but the solution is rarely visible, and all of this happens with the world that currently exists in the way it does and with laws and prisons and police and whatnot being what they are.
But if they changed drastically and disappeared, would massive changes suddenly become and there will be less crime, less violence and therefore less internet arguments and angry reactions from people and humanity would automatically become more peaceful?
Would, if flaws and problems stil existed, humans and certain matters be simply divided into "good" and "evil" categories without any "grey matter"? Would ordinary humans in society all of a sudden become decent citizens by MERELY NT being criminals and not committing any crimes let alone violent ones themselves (ie they would never blame any victim of any crime, never indulge in discrimination, never have negative thoughts or desires to harm or kill someone especially someone who is INNOCENT and if they are UNSURE about SOMETHING, they would simply politely STAY AWAY and switch their minds to something ELSE, i.e more productive like job, educatio
I used to think it was "Cee - too - l - hoo" until I realized it is actually "Coo-to-loo", with an emphasis on "Coo".
Even if Gaston WAS indeed just there for the Beast, wouldn't he at least be a little surprised and put off by all the furniture and other enchanted objects coming to life and fighting off the invaders and what if at least ONE of them would've gone after him or stayed outside the Beast's room, given that all of them to an extent WERE aware that the invaders WERE coming for the Beast, at least by how loudly they all shouted "Kill the Beast" etc?
I mean, maybe the Beast was just some animal or who knows, maybe in Gaston's mind that's possible and plausible but haunted furniture?
Its not as if they had to deal with that kind of stuff in their lives at all, right?
I know this might sound naive, but why can't these prejudices in humans just die down, especially in mature ones?
Yes, real life sure has been and forever sadly will be very different from fictional Hollywood and otherwise movies where good often defeat evil, and I think few if any intelligent people would ever deny that.
Maybe it wants to say that, in exceptional cases and otherwise, violence in general is not the answer to original violence and only causes more violence and harm as a result where it isn't just guilty people that suffer?
Men in general however aren't recognized as "beautiful" or rated on their looks, and if they do deeds as bad as HE does, it makes him nothing short of an unforgiveable monster who becomes undeniably so ugly on the INSIDE that nothing positive can be said or felt towards him.
Soon people will use iphones or smartphones to trigger nuclear bombs, I won't be too surprised. )