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It is, but its not an economic one as trump suggests. He actually claimed that when the people were celebrating the original signing of the agreement, that they were actually laughing at america and how much the rest of the world was screwing the US over. Its just weird. Its like he thinks none of us have a tv or the internet to fact check things he says. Trump doesn't understand it, it's as simple as that. He claims that China can make as many coal plants as they want but America isn't allowed to which is false. Worse than that China have actually cancelled building over 100 coal plants in their goal of spearheading renewables. It's all in trumps head, or he's been told to do it by the kock brothers and their ilk. Unfortunately far too many people refuse to see the truth because they don't want to admit they got it wrong. Funny thing is Clinton wouldn't have been any better. She would just have been more of the same but at least she wouldn't be pissing off the rest of the world and sucking up to Russia at every turn. I don't blame anyone for wanting change, but I think it's pretty clear at this point trump isn't that change they wanted. Actually I tell a lie there is one penalty for missing targets. The country that misses is targets is shamed. That's it. The rest of world gives the country that misses its target a disapproving look and shakes its head. yup, the last of the last of the summer wine guys. rip. It was never like that. It was all government level stuff. In fact most of the companies in America are urging trump not to pull out. They are mostly in support of going green. Intel, Microsoft etc etc are all disappointed in trumps actions. These are big companies that are for the green agreement. As for the little guy, no, no one would be forcing anything on them. It would all just trickle down. If trump really wanted to look after the little guy, he'd be offering massive government subsidies to get the ball rolling or renewables. The more money available the faster the uptake, the faster the uptake the lower the prices become. That all filters down to the people. More jobs, less cost and a lot less pissy Wars in the Middle East. No more relying on foreign oil, no more problems in energy at all. The sun isn't going anywhere, the wind won't ever stop, and the water will keep flowing. As it stands China is doing all of this. So in 20 years they'll be selling energy to the us. They'll have the big companies in place to corner the market, and set the prices. The time is now. But trump only thinks in the now, not years from now. And it's the American people that are gonna pay for it. Him and his rich buddies will be racking it in. It's that and a lot of propaganda. The American people are led to be I've they are the best in the world at everything. It's unfortunately not true, but if you dare say that you are labelled anti American, a communist, socialist, traitor etc etc. Oh god, you are that fucking stupid. A volcano, is part of the eco system. Your hundreds of fucking coal power plants are not. Thats also not taking into account that fact that youre full of shit. Volcanos put at the most 319million tons of co2 per year, compared to the 29 billion estimated tons by humans per year. All these facts are easily found outside of your rightwing oil based echo chamber. And god isnt going to help you. Carbon footprints in kilotons has the usa at just under 8million. China is just over 5million and india is almost 2 million. The problem with the usa is that its so vast and has such different types of land and populous. So you can look out your window in wisconsion and see clear skys, but look at your window in LA and choke to death in seconds. Yes, it was a good idea. But no one is forcing america to do it. There are no penalties if america doesntdo it. The paris agreement has no gun pointed at americas head. Trump paints the picture that paris is forcing america to do things, which is not true. America looked at itself and made the call where it could lower carbon output. So when you say paris is a raw deal, its not true. Its something that moron has said who clearly has no clue what the paris agreement is about. The paris agreement was signed by Israel and Palestine. Let that sink in for a moment. Israel and Palestine AGREE that the the paris agreement is a good idea. Even north korea thinks its a good idea ffs. Trump has walked away from the first thing ever that humanity has come together for. The whole world, except trumps america. Think about that. Think about if you really want to be that isolationist. Jesus fucking christ, you cant be that dumb, can you? Its not carbon thats the problem, its the amount of carbon thats the problem. The earth filters carbon over a hundred years or so. It a has a fine eco system that means it can take x amount. We are adding to that number and throwing off the balance. Do you know why you shouldnt take more than 2 paracetamol/acetaminophen tablets in 4 hours? Its because the body only produces enough enzymes to turn the toxic parts into non toxic in that time frame. If you add more you risk damaging the liver and other organs. Theres a balance to everything. Why fuck with it? Taking into account economics, the U.S. ranks 10th highest in carbon pollution per gross domestic product behind China, India, Russia, Estonia, Poland, South Korea, the Czech Republic, Mexico and Turkey, according to the International Energy Agency . The U.S. spews almost five times more carbon dioxide per dollar in the economy than Sweden. Because carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere for more than a century, scientists and regulators say it's more important to look at historical emissions. Since 1870, the U.S. has produced about one-quarter of the world's carbon dioxide(twice as much as China) and that makes it the biggest polluter in the world by far. Carbon emissions are the only measurements that matter. Clean air free or soot and other shit, yeah, the USA is great. But air born particles are not what's causing global warming. No it wasn't. It wasn't even a deal. AMERICA SET ITS OWN TARGETS!!! There was no punishment other than shame for failing to meet those targets, and you were giving money to other countries to piss up against a wall. Stop listening to that utter buffoon. He's lying to you, or at best just has no clue what's going on. He's talking about how America isn't allowed to use coal anymore, which is a lie. Reducing the reliance on coal was an American idea. The Paris climate agreement was just that, an agreement. An agreement that each country would tackle climate change in its own way. As one of the richest or not the richest countries in the agreement, and biggest contributors of carbon, of course the USA pays more. But as I said already in GDP terms, the USA is behind 31 other countries in how much is contributed to the fund. Like I said though, whether you believe in it or not. The fact remains that trump is costing the American people money and jobs. Instead of championing new technologies and putting America at the forefront of renewables, he's forcing the country to stay with finite resources that will only continue to cost more, and contribute more to the climate. Worse he might actually be forcing the country backwards. If nothing else he's giving China the head start. They've already said they're putting 360 billion in to renewables and will create millions of jobs over the next 3 years. America doesn't need jobs? The coal miners trump is so worried about can't be retrained in renewables? eh, the USA has contributed the most to climate change, and still is one of the leading contributors per person today. You can say that you've given the most in dollar numbers, but as one of the main contributors you should be. But on a scale of GDP, the USA is 32nd in this list of paying for it. So as the richest country and largest contributor the USA is not even close to paying its fair share. It's like a millionaire going out for a meal with a bunch of middle class folks, and having 5 courses while everyone else has a salads and then expect everyone to split the bill evenly. But you're right, you(the middle class) shouldn't be footing the bill. The ones most directly gaining from it should. The kock brothers for example. They are after all the types standing in the way of the middle classes getting access to renewables at affordable rates. Make no mistake, these people are steal your children's future. We have, at best 20 years to turn things around before future generations are fucked. And I mean fucked. There will be nothing they can do. Your grandkids will be bouncing on your kneee and asking you why you hate them so much? Whenever you see climate change deniers. Ask where the information is coming from. Because I promise you, it's opinions. It's not science. Listening to oil companies tell you there's no such thing, is like listening to tobacco companies telling thou there's no direct connection between smoking and cancer. Speaking of which, Philips Morris international(big tobacco company) have pledged to reduce their carbon footprint, and wallmart and Bank of America have set deadlines to be 100% run on renewables. That's right Walmart and Bank of America believe in and are trying to tackle climate change. Oh the irony is so fucking strong with this one. Trump is a piece of shit, I don't see the issue? It's actually not hard to know which group is telling the truth. It's actually really easy, it's the guys in the white jackets with all the data, not the guys with the agenda in a sports coat and rambling about god. They use the fact that temperatures rising and falling is natural to under cut the truth that we are in fact contributing to it greatly. But even if you don't believe that, what trump is doing is handing jobs and a head start in the renewables industry to china. They've already closed coal planets are investing heavily in renewables, while trump farts on about coal. Fossil fuels aren't going to last forever, that is an undisputed fact. And I don't know about you, but I'd rather get my energy in future from wind, water or the sun, than be shooting high pressure jets into the earth to get more gas at the risk of earthquakes. Yes renewables are expensive, but the quick we all are to adopt them the quicker the price will fall. Dude, fuck off. Why is everyone around trump lying? Why are they all being caught in those lies about their contact with russia? Seriously just fuck off. Bury your head in the fucking sand and take up the arse like a good little drone. The EU is not what its claimed to be by its detractors. Its not responsible for the things that people blame it for. Thats the point. And yes, voting for something a political party whose policies wouldnt look of place on 1940s german manifesto does make you dumb. As just one example the disabled have been vilified and abused by the government in the UK since before 2010. The government pushing the blame of the recession on to their backs, even though we all know it was the fucking banks, the muppets are believing them. Disabled people are dying by the thousands every year as a direct consequence of the governments actions against them and still the muppets voted them back into power in 2015. Not only voting them back in, but giving them more seats and more power to abuse the disabled. But fuck the disabled right? Who cares about them. What about closing british steel something they said they wouldnt do if elected, and replacing it with cheap china steel? Would that be a good enough reason not to vote for them? What about selling rail contracts to the chinese instead of british firms? What about giving energy contracts to the french instead of british energy companies? Theyve done nothing but sell the country out to foreign businesses but the uk public blames the fucking immigrates because the right wing tabloids tell them to. Does that make them fucking dumb yet to you? No your right. All this smoke must be coming from the sky, cant be a fire at all. I guess when trump tried to end sanctions against russia as soon as he got into office, thats just one them coinkydink things right? The fact theres a steady stream of information coming from investigators is all a big conspiracy by the left. Trump is so innocent, theres no one in the history of the world that ever been more innocent than him. Its all lies to get pence to be president. Fucking moron. Trust me, the propaganda machine is working full time to convince the Uk public that they are going to keep all the good stuff from the eu but get rid of all the bad stuff. The message is that the eu is bad. Run by megalomaniacs that want to control the block without being voted into power. The people of the uk are every bit as dumb as those that thought a vote for trump was a vote for change. This election on the 8th will be a sign if they have been paying attention over the past 7 years. If its another resounding win for the torys then its all fucked unfortunately. The eu will have to be strong and dictate to the uk how it leaves so as not to encourage other countries to leave as well.