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Here's the deal with the ending. In the book, Mattie Ross went to either see Rooster at this wild west show or go pick up his body (I don't remember which). Anyway, she has an internal monologue about meeting Cole Younger and Frank James. She mentions that she respected Cole Younger because he had served time in prison for his crimes. However, she thought Frank James was white trash because he was a bank robber who evaded justice. I don't remember if she actually told him that in the book. I haven't read it since the 1990s. But the ending of the 2010 movie doesn't provide any context for her statement nor does it really have any place within the narrative of the film.
I'm planning on reading the book again in the near future, because there were quite a few things in the newer movie that seemed like they were changed.
If you watch it again, the chief says to "bring that sick SOB in." However, no one seems to be able to find him. Evidently, he got wise to the fact the rest of the police were looking for him. While the police were uncovering evidence at the house, Mackey had been hiding in the paperboy's attic.
Yeah, except the daughter acts like that through the whole movie. That's what separates this from a real life incident. Hence the fact she carries a teddy bear and acts like she's a little kid, even though she's supposed to be a teenager. It's an odd writing choice for the character dynamic.
Just so no . . . to Bonzo!
I think MST3K put Leonard Maltin in a nutshell when they showed Laserblast. Maltin rated that movie 2 and 1/2 stars, then towards the credits, they started naming famous and well loved movies that he only rated 2 and 1/2 stars, or in some cases, less. He has no business writing movie reviews.
I'd have to say Barbara. The only way it could've been worse for Tom and Judy is if they weren't killed instantly in the explosion.
Hi, I decided to revisit this post in hopes it would get noticed in trending. Thoughts from any fans of the Reanimator franchise?
I've seen conflicting articles about this. One release said they found the original logo saved on 16mm B-roll. But recent reviews of the Criterion release show that it's actually the original "Night of Anubis" title card instead of the Flesheaters card. I saw this thread a while back and I was hoping someone would shed more light on these extras.
@MozartsMuse That's quite a reach. Also, if you watch the murder at the beginning, the killer is wearing a different skirt and even has mannerisms like Mrs. Trudoni.
Alice wasn't the killer, but she did have some deep seated emotional issues. Much of it seemed to deal with fatherly-abandonment issues. First, her parents divorce. Her dad remarries and moves away. Then, the priest that's really close to the family refuses to grant her communion but does so for Karen. This act represents favoritism of one sister over the other. As a result, Alice was becoming much more detached from those close to her and reality. It sort of hints she might become completely unhinged at a later point in her life.
I don't think it is a TV edit. To the best of my knowledge, none of the TV edits have ever been released under Communion title, not to mention this looked like a new remaster. I have the DVD the Amazon Prime video is sourced from. That's how I noticed the edits. I remembered most of the really messed murders and they were all cut. Especially the one of the priest, they cut that all to hell. Plus, the only time I know of this movie playing on TV recently was on TCM a few years ago and that was uncut.
I just found this so strange, as Shudder has never played anything censored like that. At least not that I've ever noticed.
This thread is old, but I want to answer your questions. There used to be a lot of articles that explained the marketing ploy behind using Brooke Shields, but I guess not so much anymore.
The movie was originally released under the title Communion (not to be confused with the Christopher Walken alien abduction movie). According to the solid sources of Wikipedia, it was dropped by Columbia pictures for "legal reasons." From recollection, Allied Artists picked this movie up and released it, only to pull it back from theaters due to poor performance.
Then in 1978, Brooke Shields rose to notoriety in Pretty Baby. To cash in, they decided to re-release the movie. They changed the name, one, in case somebody remembered the time before when it was released, and two, they didn't want to offend Christian or religious people. So the name was changed to Alice, Sweet Alice and it made money.
Skip to 1981. Brooke Shields rose to full blown stardom with The Blue Lagoon. The film was again given a new title, which was Holy Terror. The marketing campaign was based largely around Shields as evidenced in the trailer seen here:
[url]https://youtu.be/b5QEAH35vM4[/url]
During the 1980s, the movie was released numerous times on VHS with the second title and banking off Shields. It was in the public domain at that point, so like Night of the Living Dead, lot's of people were in on the game.
She was in two of my favorite horror films. Brian DePalma's Sisters and Black Christmas, directed by the great Bob Clark. RIP.
It was a decent zombie movie until that point. I figured maybe aliens or something supernatural were responsible for the junk piles. Maybe they were avant-garde zombies that like to create horrible art pieces and look down at people for not getting the meaning. Then they would eat them. :)
Since she took over as the lead correspondent, the tone of the show has shifted. For a long time, I have felt that she a provocateur and it's clear the show is moving more from human interest stories to being political. Not that politics were never discussed before, but it seems like it is more agenda driven now. It seems really preachy.
I've watched this show on and off since I was a kid, when Charles Kurrault and Charles Osgood co-anchored the show. My parents used to watch it regularly, along with Kurrault's other series, On The Road. Much like On The Road, Kurrault created Sunday Morning to showcase stories that were meant to be more life affirming, more good natured in tone. Charles Osgood continued that legacy long after Kurrault retired and passed away. That's not really Jane Pauley's style. Ever since she was involved in that debacle with Stone Phillips at Dateline NBC over the pickup trucks, it seems to me that she steers more towards sensationalism. Then again, that seems tame compared to much of what's going on with today's media.
I didn't know he was in the original Assault On Precinct 13. I'm going to have to watch it again. I've seen it dozens of times, but I didn't remember seeing him in it.
I remember him as Scar in The Searchers. I've regrettably never seen the original Babes in Toyland. I still have Netflix DVD, I'm going to queue it up. I never really liked the made for tv one that had Keanu Reeves in it.
As far as there being no posts, MovieChat is taking awhile to build traction. I don't get why, because it's easily the successor to the old IMDb boards. For some reason, less people use it.
Your post is the reason I checked moviechat. I just watched this movie and there was no explanation for why the zombies are stacking crap in the middle of nowhere, not even a clue. Plus, how were these zombies able to stack items to the heights shown in the movie? Did they have a ladder truck? Did they have engineer zombies that helped with schematics to stabilized the design? The whole thing with parrot was nonsensical too.
[quote][–] RazoulGoozleSmog (65) 6 hours ago
At the end of the day it's Weinstein gobble that was solely made to make money, take away the horror references, it's just a soap opera.
Se7en is pretty distinguishable from the other dark mystery thrillers that came after it trying to have the same style, movies like Along Came A Spider or 8MM.[/quote]
I think that's about half-right. That's clearly what they did with Halloween 6 and then they went a step further with H20. H6 is a weird duck, because it still had the same plot elements and direction that the previous Trancas International Films took with those movies. But it also has the annoying pop culture references and the glossy feel that were to become prominent in the movies that later came from Dimension.
The thing about Seven you should remember is that, not only is it distinguishable, it's a masterpiece. In my opinion, Fincher never topped that. I know many people would name Fight Club, but I don't think that even comes close. So it's always going to be better than movies like the Morgan Freeman-Alex Cross flicks. But you're right about a lot of other thriller from that era. I will defend 8mm because I don't believe it fits into that mold. I also think it's really underrated. It doesn't try to be a conventional suspense-thriller. It's more in the realm of neo-noir and borders on exploitation.
[quote][–] Stratego (2871) 14 hours ago
It seems you never liked the film because of the hype. That doesn't exactly mean the movie hasn't aged well. If you dislike it even more now, maybe you haven't aged well. [/quote]
You know, now that you mention it, my hair did grey prematurely, not to mention I had liver spots by age 20. I think you figured it out! Scream is the greatest film of the 90s.
[quote]posted a day ago by RazoulGoozleSmog (46)
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I can appreciate the first Scream, and I understand how different it was compared to other horror movies back in the day, especially that opening scene with Drew Barrymore.
I loved this trilogy growing up through elementary and middle school, praising it as "cool, hip and smart horror" basically what the critics said on the DVD/VHS covers.
But man shit like this paved the way for all the shit horror that comes out now, those horror shows on the CW and MTV. (Which I know Kevin Williamson writes for now)[/quote]
I agree with you 100% about this film not aging well.
Now let me start by admitting that I hated these films when they were popular. The Scream movies came out when I was in high school and people wouldn't stop talking about them (mostly the girls seemed to sing the praises). I watched the first two and I thought they were self-indulgent garbage. I was in college when I saw the third film on a date and it was a snooze fest. Prior to that, I had been a Wes Craven fan and I couldn't believe he made these flicks.
Also, I think all films are victims of being dated at some point (which on the flip side, aging is sometimes the charm).
That said, I tried to watch these movies recently as well. It's been the case that I have watched some movies I loathed from back in the day and they had grown on me. Not the case with the Scream films. Not only had they not aged well, I thought they were ten times more grating than previous viewings. I had forgotten how insufferable I found the actors to be. Anyone annoyed with millennials should watch these movies and use them for a perspective of how obnoxious previous generations can be in their youth.
I will say that, as a fan of the series Justified, I was floored to see Timothy Olyphant's role in the second movie. What a hilarious early role for that guy.