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Movie sustantiates a lot of jewish stereotypes


Im watching this movie as a,middle age jewish adult. I have always known my family and other jewish friends to be generous with their money. However, this,movie ,by emphasizing madoff·S jewishness may promote some antisemitism..it is very well acted though. Any comnents regarding this issue...jewish or non jewish contributors may respond

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In real life, the Palm Beach club depicted in the movie looks at the amount of money that you give away to charity as a condition of membership. And those amounts are considerable, way more than their membership dues. Exclusive? Yes. But the measure of your success and fortune was in how much you gave away generously. Many of those swindled were not looking necessarily to enrich themselves, but to allow their families' philantrophy to continue. Read the Vanity Fair article of 2009 for details on the many foundations that had to close as a result of Madoff.

No, I am not Jewish, but have benefited from their friendship, mentorship and ample generosity.

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I don't think so and what about the investors that didn't really want to hear that they couldn't get unrealistic returns. I think the whole story is about the clock that makes the stock market work....old fashioned greed

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I'm Italian - you want to talk stereotypes?

Anyway, I never gave one thought to Madoff or anyone else being Jewish in the film.

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Multiple accounts detail how Bernard Madoff exploited his cultural Judaism as part of his "con" to get investors like Hadassah and Elie Wiesel, and by extension, a network of wealthy Jews "you gotta see my guy Bernie". But it probably started from Day 1 at his father-in-law's accounting office- notice the traditionally Jewish surnames of his clients.

Many cultures, especially in the Northeast, "stick together" whether Irish, Italian, Greek, Jewish, Chinese, Polish, Russian and so on. They do business with each other, and membership in that culture serves as an endorsement. There's an expression "hey, I gotta guy" that is a big part of this.

Madoff seemed more like a cultural Jew, by heritage, than a religious, observant Jew, unlike his brother who turned to the rabbi in his time of distress.

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Actually Bernie is generous - he gets his brother a car and a villa in France, that hardly perpetuates the stereotype.
What bothered me was the "I'm just a poor Jewish kid from Queens" statement - literally EVERY successful Jewish person I have ever heard in my life seems to paint themselves as "aw shucks I'm just a poor Jewish kid from Brooklyn/Bronx/Queens, etc.", whether it's Larry King, Bernie Sanders, Billy Crystal, when in fact being a Jewish kid in mid-20th century NYC was in some ways a great advantage, especially compared to Irish, Italian, black, etc. They had close ties to many successful businesses, parents that often emphasized self-discipline, financial responsibility and education, and cultures that didn't seem to suffer from the same reckless morals, substance abuse, criminal behavior of the other cultures... I realize this is a generalization but this is my limited perspective on it so apologies if I'm off base but that's how it appears to me

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Yes it shows,that if,you work,hard and dedicate yourself in the mid 1900 you could get ahead. Unfortunately since so much is tied to prestige,thats not always,the case now,in 2016.

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@markweinreb.

this,movie ,by emphasizing madoff·S jewishness
I'll just say if someone didn't know Bernie was Jewish before watching this movie,they will after watching Madoff.

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I am jewish and did not feel any anti-semitism.
The movie was accurate.
Madoff stole from jews and gentiles alike.
Yes: he does exemplify the worst stereotype of jewish people.
THIS jew was a crook, it did not say ALL jews were crooks.

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