Understatement Porn


I thought this was a good film but not the ‘emotionally devastating’ masterpiece I’d been led to believe online.

Casey was doing his silent psycho routine - glazed and distant, occasionally punching something or someone. I’m torn as to whether this is great acting or an Oscar-baiting shtick. I haven’t seen Affleck do much else in his career so I’m beginning to think the latter, especially when he shares scenes with the likes of Michelle Williams who at least shows some more ‘colours’ and goes for it emotionally.

Affleck was fighting tears in that scene and said ‘there’s nothing’, but clearly there is if he’s on the brink of tears. I wanted to see him ‘let it out’ which looked on the cards but no - bottles it again.

I get that that’s a way to show his emotional blockage, but after 2+ hours I wanted to see some progress. Yeah he’s fishing with his nephew at the end but again - understated. It’s like the film was running away from its best scenes at every opportunity, and was too busy trying to be clever with timeline jumps so that you can only make sense of a scene… three/four/five scenes later.

Good Will Hunting was a better portrayal of a Bostonian ‘haad-ass’ with a far more interesting central character and a brief but really powerful catharsis. This needed to either dive into the characters properly or be a short film.

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Isn't it a fag film or something?

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It contains no ‘fags’ if that’s your meaning.

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Ah, thanks. Finally took the time to look up the story. Seems interesting.

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It's a very gut-wrenching film, and quite a performance from Affleck and Williams.
For me, I like that there wasn't this big cliched emotional breakthough from Casey A., like what we've already seen in so many movies (Matt Damon's Good Will Hunting breakthough w/ Robin Williams comes to mind...."It's not your fault").

It would have been been pretty typical...to have the big, dramatic breakdown....tears and wailing, etc. However, instead of going for big drama, the director went for realism. We all know guys like Lee....stoic, sad and distant. They keep everything bottled-up. They just have a distant solitude about them.

I get it, there's nothing sexy or emotionally riveting about raw realism. However, the drama came from the story itself....and the honesty of the characters. And finally....from the hints of grace, compassion and even hope.

It's been a long time since I've seen this movie, but from what I remember, my 2 favorite scenes are...when Lee runs into his ex (Michelle Williams) on the street, and her heart is just broken as she tries to tell him she doesn't blame him. And....the scene where Lee's nephew is falling apart.....and he sits by his bedside, and tells him...."I'm just going to sit here with you, until I know you're going to be ok."

The honesty in those scenes really got to me. Superb acting and directing.

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Yeah those were rare moments where the film didn’t run away from the drama to play clever games with jumbled chronology and seeing how unnecessarily understated it could be.

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Before I start I think it's clear but still Spoiler head.


I think part of the reason for the flashbacks are to leave the viewer in suspense and wondering “what make Casey behave the way he do?"

Tell me if I am wrong but the flashbacks ends after we exposed to the tragedy he went through.

There are two different responses to grief, one more emotional and extrovert and the other stoic and distant as Ripkens25 said. The reason for the differences is the guilt factor, it's make sense from Lee point to view to act that way. It took a while but he finally gave sparrow to his feelings and opening up.

He made a big progress from the beginning of the film to its conclusion. We see him finally 'disintegrates' and bursts into tears. He admit in presence of Patrick that the grief for his child and the trauma too hard and he can't take a responsible for him without suffer persistent anxiety. In the end, maybe he's not adopt Patrick but he didn't break the promise to be there for him. When we ask ourselves if this's a happy ending or sad, we can't forget the historical context of Lee, he lost 3 child at fire that he start, you can't overcome something like this, most people will punish themselves all their life. This's why I think it's happy ending in relation to the tragic situation in which the characters operate.


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quote from Drooch -

***Good Will Hunting was a better portrayal of a Bostonian ‘haad-ass’ with a far more interesting central character and a brief but really powerful catharsis***

It's hard to compare two janitors but yeah... lol... the janitor in GWH was a bit more likable/interesting than the janitor in MBTS. Of course, GWH was a better script with a little more originality. I found MBTS to be somewhat cliche but not bad. It hits a nerve in several parts of the film but I don't think I could rate it any higher than a 6.0 out of 10. Good comparison to GWH though.

The street scene is the best part as we can tell Lee is having a rough time with letting his emotions out and getting tired of his home life and Michelle nailed it in this scene like she always does. But Lee finally does show some emotion after getting his butt kicked. lol...

I thought the bar fights were probably the 2nd and 3rd best scenes in the movie, they had a touch of humor to them. I mean, that one guy just barely bumps into him and he punches him. LOL!! I know it's not supposed to be funny, this type of thing happens in bars quite often, truth is, you can get into a fight in a bar every night if you wanted to. But still.. the way both fight scenes played out had a bit of humor to them.

Ohh well... pretty good film, not quite what I expected though.

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