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For the simple minded: The Rey-bashing "Mary Sue" crowd in a nutshell

posted 7 years ago by Frogarama (12942)
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As decades of unrealistic, super-powered-yet-usually-human male characters are released in movies:

Boy: "Yay! He is so awesome! I love James Bond, I love John McClane, I love Bruce Wayne, I love Tony Stark, I love Luke Skywalker, I love Harry Potter, I love... (insert any number of highly popular male hero characters here, there are plenty)."

After a major series, Star Wars, gets a female main character, who is literally super-powered just like her predecessors, and not exactly human:

Boy (now grumpy, with arms crossed): "What is this girl-power bull****??? I'm gonna go online and complain for YEARS about her."

Summary complete.

[–] SimpleMovieCommenter (21) 6 years ago

The difference between Rey and those male characters you mentioned is most of those characters have a background that include a reasonably assumed period of training before they get introduced in their movie.
James Bond is a veteran spy agent. John McClane is a veteran cop. Bruce Wayne trained since he was a child before becoming Batman. Tony Stark tested out and trained with his armor before he got better at being Iron Man. Luke Skywalker was a Bush pilot before he became a Rebel pilot and Luke got Jedi training in each movie which tested him against progressively harder Jedi stuff. Harry Potter got training and he always needed help.

Rey is not at all "literally super-powered just like her predecessors". Don't you dare compare her absurd background and development to Luke. He had to through the classical Hero's Journey. Rey fucking skipped the Journey in a fucking single day and made Luke look like a chump.