Good until he murdered an entire floor of innocent people...

Except those people weren't innocent. They were just as guilty as the CEOs. Without their complicit actions, that kind of mass fraud wouldn't have been possible.

They weren't innocent.

NOBODY IS INNOCENT!

I also had a slight problem with that scene, he's shooting at those people in complete random, not knowing who they are or if they're even guilty of his crime, but with more thought, the way I see it; nobody is a good guy in this movie. Everyone wants to get rich and he basically gets screwed over and so he resorts to what he's very good at.

There's a line in the movie, yes it's after he wipes out the entire floor, when he's talking to the CEO; something along the lines of: survival of the fittest and strong versus weak. They use this as a metaphor for their actions, he now plays the same game.

Survival of the fittest doesn't have rules and that also includes morality and equality. His wife kills herself by indirect actions of those people, all greedy and only thinking about themselves. From all directions, to greedy insurance companies to investors. They all end up killing people without knowing anything about them on a daily basis. Without those employees working for those companies, propping it up and instead if they refuse, none of it would exist. The difference is, they don't use a gun and they don't walk into the office with it. So what about them? People need to be accountable or more Hilters will keep coming. I'm not saying wiping an entire floor of people is justified, but also instead of asking for morality from Jim, people inside the office should be also be put to the same morality rules.

I think I understand why he did it, in the sense of this topic talking about what's right or wrong, but mostly I think he's just lost it due to his wife committing suicide. This isn't a movie about a hero who wants to fight the system, he's just doing it for revenge.

He was working at a company that guards and transfers money. Money that probably belongs to the same guys he despises. Just before those scenes, he meets his broker. His broker is all rich again and trying to get him to invest. So I think he just assumes that they're all the same, and wants to take revenge on him too. He has a broker to begin with.. Anyone who has a broker that ends up screwing them either got conned or they only cared about profit, which seems to be the case when all he remembers is a guaranteed 8% return.

I think that's part of the darkness of this film - what humans CAN be capable of when pushed to their emotional and moral limits. Some throw in the towel, lie down like drugged mice and take the abuse and humiliation dished out by these greedy giants - and to rub salt into the wound, our government bails THEM out leaving their damaged clients to fess for themselves. Once a person feels like there is nothing left to lose they can begin to blame everyone with even a shadow relationship to the actual culprits. Have you seriously never considered a terminal illness list - people you want to pay the ultimate price if you are ever diagnosed with a terminal illness - in those last waning days people who have caused irreparable damage that need to pay for their crimes against mankind? I can so easily see how he fell into this quagmire and I can forgive him the collateral damage especially in light of the betrayal by his wife who was too chicken *beep* to stick it out WITH him- she simpers and whines "it's all my fault" then after he's gone to excruciating lengths FOR her she bails on him - so yeah I can understand how his reality snapped -- there have been times that the only thing that would give me more glee than a bomb on Wall Street would be a simultaneous bomb on Capitol Hill during a full - in my eyes they are ALL guilty for the financial rape of innocent Americans

Who gives a *beep* on what you think. Those were the bad guys, period.

Bad males = killed
Girls (bad girls) = spared (because gender is female)

Maybe you should watch The Wolf of Wall Street. Those traders may not be as rich as the top guy but they make a good living, and some of them sell shady stocks to do it just because the top guy said so. This movie portrays them all as greedy scumbags willing to jump on anything for a quick buck. That was shown at the beginning when the main guy orders them to sell bad stock for an extra bonus and they all get right to work.

The scene was a little bit much, but I wouldn't really call them innocent in the context of this movie. Really the only one somewhat innocent was the guy he let go with the pregnant wife. He tried to urge their boss not to pull the maneuvers he did. Coincidence that he gets to live? Nope. I think they were pointing that out.

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[fight7] Idiots

None of them were innocent. They are all scum who feed off the misery of others. For traders to win, someone always has to lose, and a lot of times, it's the little guy who has been sold a lie. Of course, that doesn't mean they all deserve to die, and the overkill in this movie did taint it a little.