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Poll: did you hate Jasmine or feel sorry for her?


Quick poll, to see how many here either sympathised with Jasmine or totally hated her guts. No bashing or long winded explanations, just your gut feel after watching the movie.

Personally, I felt sorry for Jasmine.

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I'd lean toward the latter, in moments. Never hated the character (I find it strange people did).

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I found nothing likeable about her.

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She's not a good person at all for sure, yet you do feel sorry for her. That's good writing for you.



- A point in every direction is the same as no point at all.

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She cared more about her lifestyle, and when it was over she turned on her husband out of spite/anger never thought what it would do to her son she was more interested in getting revenge. And she seemed oblivious but really didn't want to know the truth for a long while till finally it bubbled up to the surface and she confronted her husband, and as you see later when she met a new man she lied from the get go again not thinking, like she said in the car it was of her own doing, she was messed up and so it affected all her relationships with both men and her son.

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Not true, she confronted her husband about his infidelity and he denied it.

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Yes she did comfront him after a while but remember he had numerous relationships her friend at the table was discussing all the women he had gone through . Yes I agree she did confront him but that was down the road later. And when she did confront him it was only like a passing question at first so and so said you two were chummy anyhting going on. He says no. SHe's like okay im good with that and moves on. NOt really pressing the idea. Then later when she actually realized he wasn't where he was suppose to be and the hotel called her that he left something behind then she went to him and said something like don't lie or pretend did you or did you not...

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> "She's not a good person at all for sure, yet you do feel sorry for
> her. That's good writing for you."

No. It is not good writing. It is good acting. The script basically tries to demonize her. Cate Blanchet also makes us feel her pain.

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No. It is not good writing. It is good acting. The script basically tries to demonize her. Cate Blanchet also makes us feel her pain.


I agree. His writing was good but it was the acting that made the difference and Woody himself acknowledges that in in one of his interviews, where he said said that he didn't intend people to hate or feel sorry for Jasmine, he only cared to portray her accurately. He said that the fact that people ended up feeling for Jasmine was purely because of Cate. He said "her humanity comes across because of Cate. If you had another actress you might have felt totally differently about this, but Cate is so full of humanity and soul and complexity that you see her suffering and you feel for her ... Cate infused the character with a tender dimension".

Here is the interview where he mentions it, at about 2:45 http://youtu.be/jdoDlfWk5Xw




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Reading this paragraph really made me appreciate the film a whole lot more. I always empathised with Jasmine but I didn't really appreciate Cate's performance as much as I should have.

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I certainly didn't "hate" her.
I do believe a lot of what she got was her own doing, but I don't feel she was a "bad person". I feel she made mistakes, like we all do.

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I felt sorry for boozer Jeanette, AKA "Jasmine". She's a myopic, self-worshipping, lying, narcissistic, leeching, materialistic, vain, shallow, toxic, hypocritical, deluded and alcoholic user who's absolutely incapable of any introspection, actual human connection, feeling empathy or self-accountability. Terrible creature...

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Spoiler warning****






what he said^ and i was hoping she would commit suicide in the end, but nope. The film is brilliant, but not perfect for this reason.

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LOL, that was kinda harsh but funny, man.

Cheers.

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* bingo *

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She's a myopic, self-worshipping, lying, narcissistic, leeching, materialistic, vain, shallow, toxic, hypocritical, deluded and alcoholic user who's absolutely incapable of any introspection, actual human connection, feeling empathy or self-accountability. Terrible creature...


Seriously, how do you really feel about her?


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Both.

She was such a complex character that my feelings for her could not be placed in such black and white terms.

Ultimately, everything she did and said to those around her brought her to the park bench.

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Ultimately, everything she did and said to those around her brought her to the park bench.
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True...but I felt sorry for her. I don't know if it was because she had always been mentally ill or her sense of ethics were skewed...it was sill sad to see the direction she was going with no hint of help for her condition.

For whatever reason; she had no effective coping skills.



Brad...Whatcha gonna do? What are you gonna do?

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I felt very, very sorry for her, specifically her vulnerability. Throughout, I pitied her for being so defenseless and lacking in survival skills.

Having said that, I also found her very irritating. She had little awareness of others' feelings and often her conversation was a kind of stream of consciousness speed talking. This made her seem very insensitive and narcissistic.

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This is why I love Woody Allen. He takes this character that is extremely narcissistic with no self-awareness and then lets the character live life to it's logical conclusion. I can remember the last time I've seen a movie that neither sympathizes nor criticizes a character like this but simply lets the story play out. Fascinating. Might I say that it makes Jasmine extremely...human.

~The man is a liar and murderer, and I say that with all due respect.~

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Yes, there are elements of both, but, truthfully, I would answer "neither."

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Now that I read this, I realize I belong in this camp, too. Well put.

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I didnt hate her because she is just completely disconnected from reality and it became obvious when she meets her friend and asks if Hal is having an affair and the friend was surprised that it took her that long to find out.

So we clearly see that throughout the movie we build this somewhat hate toward her but then its pretty clear that she needs our pity instead.

As some user mentioned that they though she would commit suicide and I had the same feeling but in the end I dont think she even realizes she can do it because she is living in her own world and she would probably be admitted to a facility in which she would probably spend the rest of her days thinking she still some elite person bla bla bla.

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it became obvious when she meets her friend and asks if Hal is having an affair and the friend was surprised that it took her that long to find out.


Actually, I thought that scene spoke volumes about the kind of "friends" that Jasmine had. At that point in the story, there was absolutely nobody in Jasmine's life who would stand up for her, support her, or show any genuine love for her, and that's incredibly sad. Jasmine's superficial, materialistic life and the types of people with whom she had chosen to associate came back to bite her big time, and as much as Jasmine is a jerk and kind of deserved it, I can't imagine how difficult it must be to realize that absolutely none of your friends are there for you when it counts the most. Of course Hal is the one most in the wrong (since he was the one cheating), but if my best friend knew for a fact that my spouse was having several affairs and never made it a point to tell me, I honestly don't know what I'd do.

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Yeah, that scene was gut-wrenching. Especially when her friend said "It's none of my business what Hal does."

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Yeah, I felt the same though I didn't think she would kill herself (she loved herself in spite of so many mistakes she committed). My first thoughts were that she is the modern version of Miss Havisham. She would be all alone in an empty world (in a facility), talking to herself and that is why she deserves pity and then, an irritation that she relied on money to make everything better and the lack of ability to take care of herself without a person to earn it for her (parents, husband and that Congressman wannabe). It is like you want her to become better (because you pity her) and you know for sure that she is not going to (as she is shallow and self-obsessed).

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