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I'm confused by the hate for this film.


I thought it was beautiful and I've seen it 4 times. It keeps getting better. I've read that many complain that it's so bleak, but that's the point. And there are moments that aren't bleak, where desperate men are out only for themselves such as scene with the helpful Indian, the scene where the boy gives food to the Indian woman in the shattered village, etc.

I love this film.

There seems to be no middle ground on this one. You either love it, or hate it. Strange. Why is that I wonder?

Edit: Weeks after posting this question, I've come to the conclusion that IMDB forums are full of a few thoughtful people and a bunch of goofballs. There are a lot of really nasty and childish comments here. For those who actually thought about their answers - thank you. But I won't waste any more time here. I'll discuss movies with friends over a few beers.

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I don't hate it.

My problem was that the bear attack and the miraculous (nigh-instantaneous) recovery afterwards were far too unrealistic as portrayed, for the type of film it was intended to be. (If those events actually happened, I'm quite certain they didn't happen anything like they were portrayed in the film.) So much so that it was completely impossible for me to overlook it and enjoy any of it. I stopped watching less than a third of the way through because of it.

I gave it a 3/10, which was actually pretty generous because for me, it completely failed at achieving what it was meant to.

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If you are nitpicky aout every movie, why do u watch them?

To me, this is one best movies I´ve seen.

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It was a really beautiful film, no doubt. The natural lighting was wonderful...I think technically speaking, the movie was a real achievement.

But I didn't like the movie. I honestly thought the plot was a bit thin, and the characters were a bit underdeveloped. There have been other "artsy" films that I've really enjoyed, but I felt like this one took itself to seriously and tried to be "deep"...when it really wasn't as profound as it thought it was. I thought the acting was good, but I wasn't riveted. I also wasn't emotionally moved, and for a movie as tragic as this one, that doesn't say great things about how they are telling the story. I think, despite the length of the movie, I never really got attached to any of the characters. They just felt...flat. If the characters don't resonate, and neither does the plot..what am I watching for?

There were also some details that took me out of the movie - for instance, the multiple scenes of people being in rivers, etc., but especially the one where Glass floats down the river. He would have been non-functioning within minutes, and I certainly don't see how he survived after he managed to get out. It was just silly to me.

And finally - and this is obviously just a personal preference thing - I didn't enjoy, at all, the unrelentingly bleak picture the movie painted. I was disappointed that it was all about revenge, and how that can drive survival, and how in the end, he DID get his revenge. It was totally depressing. And I know that floats some peoples boats, and people think that makes it "real" or something, but I like watching movies that either move me, or educate me, or inspire me, or make me think. This didn't do any of those things for me. It wasn't a bad movie...but I have no interest in sitting through it again, as visually beautiful as it may have been.

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How sad of you to not have enjoed it the way you would have wanted. Actually, this movie wasn´t about revenge, it is more about altruism and nihilism. We as an audience, nver asked to care for any of this characters, nature plays a more essential role than any of the characters involved and it actually works because nature is at it´s essence,both it´s true nature and the one led my man juxtaposing our simbiotic relationship nature and our own place in nature.

I understand this is not everyone´s cup of tea and it is flawed but it is a magnificent film with so many breathtaking moments in between that I got myself teary. This is one of the most emotionally resonating moviegoing experiences I´ve had in the last years.

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I definitely see the nihilism part (and I hate nihilism, lol), but I don't really see it being about altruism..clarify?

It's pretty crazy how some movies can polarize people so much. I find it so interesting that some - like me - can say "this didn't move me at all" (besides the stunning beauty of nature) and others can say "this moved me more than anything I've seen lately".

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That is the beauty of movies. Art is subjective and we may find a certain movie to be engrossing enough to immerse us into its world. On the other hand, we may find it pretentious, self-indulgent or boring to say the least.

I love it when a movie is divisive enough to further stir an array of emotions because in the long-run movies are about emotions, our driving forces while a crowd-pleaser is more aimed at a target audience whose main objective is to be entertained.

I loved The Revenant and there is no denying about it´s flaws but I was so compelled an in awe throughout the whole movie that I cannot simply dismiss because of its flaws. I donpt think it is a masterpiece, it is a near-masterpiece, had 20 mins been cut out, it would have been perfect.

Have a nice week

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Simply this. ^

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What's not hard to understand? This movie is nothing but the latest of Leo's "look at me, look at me" scenery chewing roles. Oh he's acting really intense and yelling lines in a movie...again. And he won an oscar for it, what a joke.

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One of the most beautiful films I´ve ever seen.

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One of the most boring

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Ok, maybe you didn´t like it but to me, it was one of the most beautiful moviegoing experiences I´ve had in years.

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Poking around in here, I could have sworn the subject line was "I'm confused by the hats for this film."

THAT would have been an interesting discussion.

Iñárritu is kind of a polarizing director. I've loved all his work but a lot of people don't, and I can respect that.

--If they move, kill em!

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What is your take on The Revenant?

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I loved The Revenant and look forward to watching it again - just got the Blu-ray. Anything I say now would be based on when I saw it back in December, and I read the novel in between (which is much closer to Hugh Glass's actual experience), which might also warp my perception.

But after I see it again, I'll let you know.

--If they move, kill em!

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I saw your edit and completely agree, which is why I won't post my own comment.

I think for me, seeing every film that obviously influenced the making of this, it felt like nothing more than a collage of great scenes from greater movies. As whole, it never felt like a movie to me, but a slideshow of scenery, some grunts and a very boring story. Much like Andrei Rublev (and other Tarkovsky films), the pace is to show time, but unlike those, the payoff is simply not there. All of his films end with a near epiphany for the characters and the viewers. This ended exactly as you knew it would from the very first scene.

Also, Malick's influence isn't only apparent, it's beaten to death. The difference is, Malick's use of nature is symbolic, whereas Inarritu's is merely for show. To show how far he's come and how much money he commands. It's sad, because his ego shows in his last two films and it caters to those who haven't seen all the films he's ripping off.

I don't deny the reasoning behind those who like it, but had they seen all of the other films first, it would be very obvious how unoriginal and uninspired this film is.

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I rewatched and still loved every second of it.

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Not everyone's cup of tea and that's perfectly fine.

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Wow. I could barely sit through it once. How could you watch it four times.

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Maybe I'm just jaded from years of working in advertising, but to me it tried way too hard to be arty and edgy. I practically laughed at the attempts and by the end it became a joke. It was so cliche and predictable (and boring). Let's have the off tune sounds of string instruments and pounding tympani while two men take turn stabbing each other. Then lets cut to running water with the blood stained snow, then the obligatory flashback of the dead wife smiling with the sun behind her head. Let's make it very violent, yet beautiful at the same time. Yawn. I was not impressed.

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