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Keira Knightley got robbed by the Oscars


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Seriously, the almost complete lack of award recognition combined with the trash people talk on this board doesn't reflect well for the people involved. If you know anything about acting, Knightley gave up a lot to that role. The opening scenes were gut-wrenching, and as the movie progressed we could feel her madness subsiding even while her heartbreak was driving her crazy in a different way. It was intense! I just can't stand it when an actor has crafted this wonderful gift of a performance and audiences throw it back without even realizing that she transformed into a Russian Jew, a sexually abused virginal mental patient, a psychoanalyst, a woman on the side, a woman reborn, a rival, a returner to her bad ways, and a wise but wistful woman. Dude!!! You can't ask more from an actor! There's nothing more to give than that! Ugh!

And for the record, I noticed Anna Paquin, Mia Wasikowska, and Olivia Colman also got robbed out of nominations. Pitiful!



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Hollywood is stupid. Shailene Woodley didn't even get nominated for supporting actress.

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I agree with u completely. This was the first question on my mind after watching the film.

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I thought she was very good as Sabrina.

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A bit surprising, since the Oscars voters seem to have a thing for ridiculously over-the-top performances. Look at "Monster" for one.

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You're right, she could have implied hysteria with a coy look, and not losing touch with her grace and beauty.



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Any role should be played in a way that makes the performance seem natural, not like a performance. Knightley's performance in this movie was such an obvious performance, it just did not seem natural to me at all.

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But how do you reconcile that with the fact that she wasn't playing a natural person, but a historically documented victim of hysteria? Could it be possible that your annoyance lies with the look, mannerisms, or motivations of the fictional character and not the actor? That would account for your comparing Charlize Theron's performance in "Monster" with this one by Knightley.



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There is a difference between acting hysterical and acting like someone who wants to be perceived as hysterical. It's a fine line, but it makes a world of difference if you notice it.

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I agree with you that there's such a line in acting. But how does Knightley fall the wrong side of it? By your definition, it's because she hasn't taken herself sufficiently out of the role. She hasn't become the role, she just wants people to think she has. To which I say to you with all respect, believe her. It won't get you anywhere to think she's faking. But it will give you an endlessly delicious reward to watch with the assurance that she's genuinely tapped into the spirit.



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Of course she is faking, it's her job as an actress. But she is just not doing it well enough to make me believe her. But I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

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That's just the point! The reason I care so much about this performance (I rarely post as much as I have on one movie) is that I believe she's not faking. Most performances are faked, granted. But this one is so from the depths of the soul that it boggles my mind that anyone doesn't realize it. She put her whole voice in it, her whole body in it, even her oft-discussed chin (which I myself have mocked for its prominence) was not hidden shyly away but rather it was laid out for the camera and the world to see. "I am hurting! And I trust no one to cure me!" This is the message that Knightley gets across in astonishingly painterly ways. If ever an actor wasn't faking this is one of those times. I'm humbled by her gift to the world, and the only explanation I can come up with is that it's too strong and real for some to absorb.



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I'll have to remind you that having hysteria is nothing common at all. Or may I use the word "Natural" for most. And hence when someone turns in a performance of being a hysteric, sure it does have to look like a performance. It's not as if you have known what is to be a hysteric or that a hysteric person looks naturally subtle. She sure doesn't.

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She did a good job. She looked like someone suffering from a panic attack, and panic attacks are the flip side of hysterical paralysis. It is common for hysterics to go back and forth between panic and paralysis or blindness.

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Seriously, the almost complete lack of award recognition combined with the trash people talk on this board doesn't reflect well for the people involved. If you know anything about acting, Knightley gave up a lot to that role. The opening scenes were gut-wrenching, and we could feel her madness subsiding even while her heartbreak was driving her crazy in a different way. It was intense! I just can't stand it when an actor has crafted this wonderful gift of a performance and audiences throw it back without even realizing that she transformed into a Russian Jew, a sexually abused virginal mental patient, a psychoanalyst, a woman on the side, a woman reborn, a rival, a returner to her bad ways, and a wise but wistful woman. Dude!!! You can't ask more from an actor! There's nothing more to give than that! Ugh!

I absolutely agree 100%. She gave this role everything. I was fĂșcking captivated, and not just by her looks this time. Seriously, truly magnificent performance. With her opening scene she reached into my chest like the Grim Reaper, ripped out my soul and pulled me into the movie with brute force, leaving my corpse on the couch. Some people are calling it over-acting but I really don't think they're familiar with the source material or her character. In a wonderful way, Keira's character study of Sabina and her personal take on her is poignant to the subject matter in the film itself.

The opening scenes almost felt like an intimate, private acting lesson with Keira. In that setting and the way it was shot was like watching a professional at their craft in their own environment, like a small actor's studio. Like watching a Venetian glass blower bring to life wonderful creations in their studio. I felt privileged. Then her transformation throughout the film from fragile to strong, while still maintaining that insecurity, was simply amazing. And her chemistry with Fassbender was wonderful to watch. Two brilliant actors at the top of their game.

Fassbender as Jung and Mortensen as Freud was perfect. Mortensen, wow, brilliant as usual. And then Cassel, I felt like I was being spoiled. Couldn't have picked a better cast. Deserved an Oscar for the screenplay, at the very least; so well-written. Script, set design, costumes, cinematography, locations, editing, direction, acting... marvelous. I just can't fault this film. It's been so long since I've thoroughly enjoyed a new movie from beginning to end.






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"Seriously, the almost complete lack of award recognition combined with the trash people talk on this board doesn't reflect well for the people involved. If you know anything about acting, Knightley gave up a lot to that role. The opening scenes were gut-wrenching, and we could feel her madness subsiding even while her heartbreak was driving her crazy in a different way. It was intense! I just can't stand it when an actor has crafted this wonderful gift of a performance and audiences throw it back without even realizing that she transformed into a Russian Jew, a sexually abused virginal mental patient, a psychoanalyst, a woman on the side, a woman reborn, a rival, a returner to her bad ways, and a wise but wistful woman. Dude!!! You can't ask more from an actor! There's nothing more to give than that! Ugh!"

Magnetictheory - "I absolutely agree 100%. She gave this role everything. I was fĂșcking captivated, and not just by her looks this time. Seriously, truly magnificent performance. With her opening scene she reached into my chest like the Grim Reaper, ripped out my soul and pulled me into the movie with brute force, leaving my corpse on the couch. Some people are calling it over-acting but I really don't think they're familiar with the source material or her character. In a wonderful way, Keira's character study of Sabina and her personal take on her is poignant to the subject matter in the film itself.
The opening scenes almost felt like an intimate, private acting lesson with Keira. In that setting and the way it was shot was like watching a professional at their craft in their own environment, like a small actor's studio. Like watching a Venetian glass blower bring to life wonderful creations in their studio. I felt privileged. Then her transformation throughout the film from fragile to strong, while still maintaining that insecurity, was simply amazing. And her chemistry with Fassbender was wonderful to watch. Two brilliant actors at the top of their game.
Fassbender as Jung and Mortensen as Freud was perfect. Mortensen, wow, brilliant as usual. And then Cassel, I felt like I was being spoiled. Couldn't have picked a better cast. Deserved an Oscar for the screenplay, at the very least; so well-written. Script, set design, costumes, cinematography, locations, editing, direction, acting... marvelous. I just can't fault this film. It's been so long since I've thoroughly enjoyed a new movie from beginning to end."

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I agree with both of you. Very well said.

Keira was phenomenal. I have much appreciation for all she put into this role and I will never look at her the same. Yes, she was indeed painful to watch, but that's the point. She's in pain. She's suffering a condition unlike any we have seen or understand in this day and age. Her mind is broken and diseased from years of abuse and torture. She suffers from the shame she feels about her sexuality, the shame of not being the woman society deems her to be, the suppression of those sexual feelings. Keira's acting portrayed this quite clearly. I'm sure anyone with any amount of intellect and respect for the fragility of the human mind, whether they are aware of it or not, has had some deep-seeded fear of losing one's mind. The only person who is immune to losing one's sanity is the insane. It is normal for this to be painful to watch, but that doesn't mean the acting is to blame. How many of her critics have ever seen an untreated truly hysterical patient? Who are any of us to say how these "hysterical" people should act?

I found this movie because I had seen Fassbender for the first time in XMen First Class and was really impressed with him. I'm a Cronenberg fan and was pleasantly surprised when I stumbled across it when I IMDB-ed Fassbender. But as I watched it, Fassbender and Mortensen were nowhere to be seen. I searched high and low and kept trying to find these beloved actors only to see Jung and Freud. Their portrayals were so awesome and studious I couldn't even imagine the way these men looked outside of costume. I saw no trace of the dangerously exciting man who played a young Magneto or the seductive, dangerous hero of Eastern Promises and A History of Violence. The sheer, raw talent of these men and the other actors, Knightly and Cassel, blew me away. I look forward to seeing Michael's other movies and I have a new respect for Keira. Of course, I love Cronenberg and Mortensen as I always have.

***I apologize as I'm sure I have not "quoted" correctly. I'm new to the IMDB boards and they're quite different from all the others I've used. Still finding my way!

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Her performance was terrible, otherwise I consider her to be a pretty good actress, but she was painful to watch here.

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I found her acting unbelievable and contrived at the beginning of the film especially. Didn't seem natural throughout. The Russian accent was sometimes close, but more often sounded way off.

Natalie Portman could have nailed this role.


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an awful, awful performance. i get that her character is supposed to make you cringe but her acting is what did it to me... look at her eyes - in every scene you can read exactly what she's really thinking - mainly, "look at me i'm ACTING". A completely disingenious, over-the-top-and-not-in-a-good-al-pacino-nicolas-cage-way performance.

just my opinion



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Not just opinion, but fact. It is only robbery if she was on the radar at all and she wasn't. Not by the hairs on her chinny chin chin.

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