OK I know there is a 12 page long thread about the rape in this movie but what about the treatment of women in general in "Horns"? It all felt VERY misogynistic to me. They were all uptight psychos (Ig's mom, mother at the doctor's office), pathological liars (The Waitress) or unstoppable sluts (pretty much every other woman). The only "good" woman in the movie was put on a pedestal so high before being raped and murdered (of course). I know men didn't come off so well when confronted with Ig's "truth horns" either but they didn't stand out as much and the camera didn't spend as much time on their bare breasts. Thoughts? When it's hard for any woman over the age of 25 to find good film roles to begin with do we really need movies like "Horns" where I couldn't name a single woman besides Ig's girlfriend?
Come on, lets be fair here. There was only 1 good male in the movie too (Merida's dad). And there were a lot more men in the movie than women. So technically, it's more anti-male than it is anti-female.
OK, so all the guys were pricks too. As I said not all the women were even evil, but the ones who weren't were uncontrollable nymphomaniacs (Nurse, Childhood Friend) and the only other "good" girl couldn't just die in a crime, it had to be a brutal sex crime. Saying "everyone is bad" doesn't change the view that this movies treatment of women was poor.
Glenna had flaws but was a very good person and I don't get why you're accusing this film of misogynism when you admit that the many male characters were ragged on too.
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The dentist was as sex obsessed as the nurse and all the other male characters were depicted much much worse than women yet you focused solely on women degradation.
So technically, it's more anti-male than it is anti-female.
I totally disagree. The men get to speak, are active, are involved with one another and with the story, have personalities...while the women are pretty much non-existent. The message that you don't deserve to even BE is the most anti-female message that filmmakers can put out there.
The protagonist is male therefore most of his friends are male, only those associated with him were focused on. And there main female character spoke a lot and was presented better than anyone else. You're just looking for something to whine about. You want every female presented as superheroically angelic yet have no qualms if every male is presented as devilish, you're clearly anti male and as sexist as you imagine this film is against your sex.
It was kind of ridiculous how *beep* amazing everyone thought the dead girlfriend was but she was given no character traits other than good or nice or enjoys wearing shear clothing. Her character was a big blank space of nothing but almost every action the men make in the movie was about her.
I didn't think she was that amazing but she was presented as such by people who loved her and lost her in the most horrible way possible. Why don't you harass the family of victims who see their loved ones in rose tinted glasses?
This is why i hate society these days everyone has a hidden agenda why cant people have fun watch Will Ferrell in both Anchorman movies do you take what he says or does seriously for even a second no i didn't think so and I bet you laughed your ass off for the "crass things" he said to women and different races
I had no problem with how the women were portrayed because their portrayal wasn't that different from the men in the context of the film. The women weren't written with much complexity, they didn't have to be; same goes for the men. Every person in this story was either seen from the perspective and experience of someone else through Iggy's visions, influenced by Iggy's horns, or there to support someone else's story.
The bartender {who I thought may have been Iggy's childhood friend tragically grown up) wasn't a nymphomaniac, she just liked sex and had low self-esteem. A nymphomaniac has uncontrollable sex with everybody. She talked a lot, but wasn't shown humping everything that moved. She talked about how no one wanted to sleep with her or noticed her unless they were drunk. That doesn't mean she slept with a lot of guys; it meant she had low self-esteem. She was hardly an unstoppable slut. She didn't have that many scenes and didn't do much but talk. You're the one judging her. Lol
The nurse wasn't a slut. She and the doctor were influenced by Iggy's horns and their lustful impulses too over. They both were sexually frustrated. Interesting that you point out the nurse as being slutty, but not the doctor.
You didn't even consider the two cops sluts given their lustful feelings and actions. Iggy's mother, the female reporters, the receptionist, the mother and child in the office were no different than the men in that they were only showing outrageous behavior as a direct result if Iggy's influence, just like all the men with dark secrets. Everyone were portrayed as equally effed up people with evil impulses. It wouldn't have worked if all the women were portrayed and good honest people. Lol
Merrin's character was more of an archetype because that's how everyone that loved her saw her. But when she confronted Iggy and Lee you could see the human being underneath. The human being that they both didn't want to see.
You know what pisses me off more about this thread? That 'slut' is being used as an insult and a woman (I presume) is using it in a thread meant to uncover sexism.
Yeah, smart move with the slut shaming, hypocritical idiot!!!
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Gosh, you talk so much. Here's an insight for you? Lust and sexual desire are one thing, sexual violence is another. This movie has an amazing amount of stated and implied sexual violence towards female characters. Any remote sexual violence is only implied towards male roles and sometimes is almost comical. You and I could debate all night, but I just wanted to point out the obvious, and look! In less words than you. Boo!