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Does Ige really return?


Does the woman that take care of the children really return? I think not.

When Uxbal leaves the bathroom she's hanging on the ceiling, which usually means that the person is dead?

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If one does not take a literal approach to this question is does not matter if she physically returns. The important point is that the children will be cared for with love and nuturing. This whole film blurs the lines between life and death...and good and evil. They blend and even within the same person. After all to the literalist...did you see her on the train? And, to him he saw her floating above and heard her voice....that was his reality. The reassurance that the two people whom he needed to know were "good" before he passed completely into the next relm was given by Ige.

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Of course Ige returns. I don't understand how anyone can be confused about it.

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How do you know?

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She does come back and it was definitely Uxbal on the ceiling at the end. He's wearing the same blue/purple shirt.

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It sounds to me that what Javier said at the Q & A session was maybe his own view that she did return. However, I think the fact that we didn't actually see her leaves me with the impression that Iñárritu wanted us to decide for ourselves.

As for the body on the ceiling, that was definitely the body of Uxbal himself as he was nearing death.

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thats a very good ?
but i dnt think the film provides an answer. i think it was meant to mess with you
there is basically not a wrong answer. its what you want to believe.

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This sure wouldn't be the first film to do something like that.

Life, every now and then, behaves as though it had seen too many bad movies

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The person Uxbal saw on the ceiling was himself. He also saw himself in the mirror right before that. I just finished the movie. I relayed that scene more than once to be sure.

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I replayed it a few times.

The person on the ceiling is himself, presaging his own death.

I disagree with those who say that Ige's return is obvious or otherwise not ambiguous.

The sequence is: close to death, he injects himself in the bathroom, then hears the door and calls to Ige. Hearing her answer and seeing her shadow in the door, he relaxes.

One could argue that she literally did just come in, or one could point out that he did just shoot himself with morphine and is close to death. Given that his strongest desire is for her to come back, it is a very real possibility that it is all in his mind.

Supporting that is the earlier story about how the tiger killed its trainer.
Also recall that she always stated, both to her boyfriend and to Uxbal, that she was going back to Senegal. She NEVER said otherwise. Even when each pleaded with her, in turn.

The shadow in the mirror appears, to me at least, to be hers. He sees her in the mirror and, whether you believe she came back or not, she is definitely not in the bathroom at that moment, lending to the hallucinatory nature of that scene.

For those who think her staying solves Uxbal's problem, the money he leaves her would soon run out and she has no means to get more (so going back makes the most sense for her). Here's your happy ending: She goes back so the brother takes the kids. They stand a much better chance with him, he has money (and the mother's always hanging out over there anyway).

Final point. It would have been very easy for Inarritu to show a clear shot of her standing in the kitchen or laying in her bed. But he did not do that. So I believe he intended it to be ambiguous. If I had to come down on one side or the other, I would say she did not come back, but that the movie is stronger with the element of ambiguity.

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after the voice of the ige we see Javier walk in the mirror but it was his soul cause he was sitting on the toilet and after he came out i paused the film and zoom on that part and i am 100% sure that it was Javier

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I just finished watching this masterful film and believe that Ige did return as per the director and Javier himself. The scene in the train station shows her indecision, yes she was tempted to leave but she did not. Re: the face on the ceiling, it definitely Javier nearing death. I understand the different takes on the ending and whether Ige was physically seen or not, I think others might still be debating if she was a hallucination. My two cents, she returned.

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I think she came back and didn't go to Senegal. She wasn't stupid and I'm sure even though she wanted to go back, she knew that her son's life would be better in Spain and that the children needed her. Even if she got the money out of Spain would she be able to get into Senegal without Customs taking it?

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It is implied that she returns.Uxbal calls her name as he is in pain and his son is missing from the bed at night where Uxbal finallys lays beside his daughter. The son was probably sleeping with Ige since he is shown kissing her at the school gate and is getting comfortable with her.

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I agree that the WAY Ige returns makes her seem like an apparition. But Uxbal seemed relieved, not alarmed.

I can't believe that people here would dispute what the freaking DIRECTOR said about what happens in his own film. Hubris! This is not some theme or abstract symbolism that we can analyze this way and that. It's a matter of whether or not she physically is in the house. The man said she is. CASE CLOSED!

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